----- Original Message ----- From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Tragedy in Israel
> At 09:45 28-12-01 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: > > >Gautam's point, blithely ignored, was that borders in Europe have been > >adjusted by the victors in past conflicts. > > The key word here being "victors". At the end of the various European wars, > there were victors and losers. Likewise, there will be victors and losers > in the Middle East. The difference however is that unlike in Europe, the > conflicts in the Middle East have not ended yet. Last I heard, Israel was > still waging war. As long as a war is going on, there are no victors. > Israel may have been victorious in battles, but the war is not over yet. > AHHHHH.....So *now* terrorism *is* war! > > >Do you think France and Poland should adjust their borders to the way they > >were before WWII, or are you holding Israel to a higher standard than the > >rest of the world? > > See above. > > Besides, if we were to insist that countries like France and Poland should > return land they ended up with after WWII, we would also have to insist > that the US return all that land they conquered in the war against Mexico. > IIRC, much if not all of Texas and a few other states used to belong to > Mexico. Somehow, I do not think that is going to happen. > Actually I think we should liberate a few more Mexicans! <G> And I would note that you are the person who wants to give back land. Most everyone else seems to be argueing against it. xponent He Is Painting Himself Into A Corner Maru rob
