At 08:19 30-12-01 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote:

><< For better or for worse there are not army secrets here.>>
>Jeroen wrote
><<Now here is something I find impossible to believe. Every country has
>military secrets, and certainly Israel. If all of Israel's military
>information was publicly available, its enemies could wipe Israel out of
>existence very quickly.>>
>How can I explain this to you? This Is Very Small Country. Almost every
>family have or had a soldier, or several soldiers. Soldiers who have
>mobiles, soldiers who come home from time to time and when they are not home
>at weekends - most often than not family would go to army base to visit
>their soldier.

Ah, I see. And nobody bothered to tell those soldiers that their country is 
at war, and that therefore spreading military information might actually be 
*dangerous* to your national security? Even the smallest European countries 
have military secrets; yet even while we are at peace our military 
personnel is not allowed to talk about everything to everyone.

And I still find it impossible to believe that even your Generals 
apparently disclose everything to everyone. "Hey everyone, we have decided 
to invade Syria next Monday. Here are the all the details. Oh, and you can 
also find all the details on our website at www.army.il/invasion_syria.html".

I think you are very much misinformed on this one, Ilana.


><<Am I to believe that Israel has made everything public?>>
>You don't "make" everything public. <SHRUG> People talk.

So do people here. But apparently unlike in Israel, over here you go to 
jail if you give military information to people wo do not need to have that 
information. I am not sure how it will be called when you give that 
information to a fellow soldier in your army, but if you give it to a 
foreigner it is an act of treason. In peace time, you can get sentenced to 
life in prison. In times of war, you will probably be executed.


Jeroen

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