----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Crystall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth
> On 26 Jun 2003 at 17:57, Dan Minette wrote: > > > But seriously, unless Turkey is admitted, the countries that it is > > expanding to have the same or worse demographic problems as Western > > Europe. > > Not really - and their less developed economic structures are markets > which America will find it a lot harder to compete in. Just which East European countrys are you thinking of? Most are aging as fast or faster than Western Europe. > > > > But, the most important factor hindering European growth is not going > > to be adressed. It is the inherent inflexibility of the European > > ecconomic system. > > huh? I'd argue that it's more *stable*. I'll give an example. A customer of mine is Swiss. He is amazed at how one can just start a company without the permission of the right people in the US. He was amazed that I was able to strike out on my own as a consultant. He said he could not just start a business when he was young; it just wouldn't be allowed. Another example is the fact that half of the EU budget goes to subsidize inefficient farms. > > > I wouldn't be complacent as an American. > > > > Well, complacency is never good, but the challenge to the US will not > > be from Europe in 30 years. How will an old society that is shrinking > > be able to challenge for supremacy? Europe is in the process of > > fading away. The only way I can see this being stopped is: > > > > 1) Women start having kids out of as sense of loyalty to Europe. > > > > 2) Europe decides it wants to be multi-ethnic. > > > > I don't think either will happen. > > 2 is happening anyway. Especially in Britian, admitedly, but all > across Europe. Immigration is spiralling. You and I have a different understanding of spiralling, then. The non-European ethnic makeup of GB is 2.8%. They are optimistically projecting enough immigration to make this about 6% or so in 20 years. And its the shining star. California already has white non-Hispanics as the biggest minority, not the majority. Texas will follow in about 2 years. Yes, one can see a significant minority of non-Europeans in London. That's because that is a haven for non-whites in GB. Contrast that with my neck of the woods where neither of the two mayoral candidates were European. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
