At 08:51 PM 9/13/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
>Consider.  JDG implies that to agree with anything
>said by another person makes you in agreement with
>EVERYTHING they say.

No Dr. Brin, I imply no such thing.   For example, I do not imply that by
quoting Pat Buchanan, you now share Pat Buchanan's pro-life views on human
rights for unborn children.   What I do imply, however, is that when you
write a post to this list, the centerpiece of which is a quote from Pat
Buchanan expressing Mr. Buchanan's isolationist views, that you are looking
with some degree of favorability upon those views.

Consider, for example, the first part of Pat Buchanan's quote:
"We invaded a country that did not threaten us, did
not attack us,and did not want war with us"

Guess what, Dr. Brin - Pat Buchanan said the same thing HUNDREDS of times
about the war against Yugoslavia!   (As well as the First Gulf War, IIRC!)
 Thus, the above is a very interesting charge for you to level at the Bush
Administration, since it applies equally well to the Yugoslavia War you
admire so much.   So, yes indeed the Bush Administration has broken with
the traditional conservatism of Pat Buchanan - particularly the
isolationist wing of conservatism whose epitome is Pat Buchanan, and
includes rejection of not just the Yugoslavia War but also includes
withdrawal from the United Nations and the rest of the international arena.
 Thus, you are one of the last people whom I would imagine to be lamenting
the passsing of the "isolationist corner" of the conservative movement.

Ridiculous comments about the IQ of the Bush Administration, utter
blindness of the "incredible severity of hatred" that liberals express
towards (neo)-conservatives, and, most inexplicably, the idea that
residents of plains and mountains States want to dissolve the Union - I am
not going to dignify with a comment.

JDG



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