--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dr. Brin, surely you can't be serious.
Are you on record in favor of conquering Iraq in 
1991?
> 

Then someone else said:
> That was not obvious.  What isn't always clearly
> defined was the price Bush
> I payed for the international cooperation with
> Desert Storm. 

What incredible proofs of the mealy-mouthed
rationalizations we are hearing.  (WMDs?  We NEVER
spoke of WMDs?  It was always Saddam!)

Baloney.  we had ALREADY effectively conquered Iraq. 
There were dozens of ways to oust Saddam right then
and there.  For example, thousands of Iraqi
troop/prisoners were begging to be re-armed and sent
north, headed by Saddam-hating generals.  The result
would have been an orderly if briefly violent coup.

Gen Schwarzkopf begged... begged... for permission to
go just 12 more hours to rescue the powple of Basra,
who were uprising AT OUR REQUEST!  A TAPE WITH PRES.
BUSH'S VOICE SAYING "WE'RE ON OUR WAY" WAS BROADCAST
FOR THAT PURPOSE.

If we had JUST rescued Basra, that would have been a
betrayal of other shiites but it would have at least
offered a sactuary for the rebels and minimally kept
our word.

Instead we consigned those people to 12 more YEARS of
living hell.

Then Rummy has the nerve to predict "Our troops will
be welcomed with kisses and flowers."  HE SAID THAT
THIS TIME.  Do you see kisses & flowers.

Would YOU kiss people who had betrayed you that way,
to 12 years of hell?  No they are completely right to
hate us right now.  Yes, we finally ousted Saddam. 
FOR THAT REASON HALF THE POPULATION IS WILLING TO WAIT
A WHILE FOR US TO LEAVE BEFORE SPITTING ON THE GROUND
WHERE THE LAST AMERICAN FOOT STEPPED.

The nerve.  Hypocrites saying "we had no UN or allied
sanction to go to Baghdada in 91... after pissing in
the face of our allies and cursing the UN in 2003.

Oh, you are right that we were forbidden to oust
Saddam by an ally in 91.  The only ally that counts. 
The one ally who is utterly obeyed by the Manchurian
Bush's every single time, despite proof they are Jihad
leading enemies of our civilization.

The Saudis.

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