It's a big relief that I am not alone in this, Jono :-)

2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>

> Don't worry. I didn't find the UI that easy to use either. I stuffed around
> clicking and hovering willy nilly to find out where things were.
>
>
> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>
>> Pfff, thanks. I am having a bit of a hard time with the UI...
>>
>> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>>
>>>  On All Forums, hover over the forum and there's a follow link. Then you
>>> can see new stuff in your watchlist.
>>>
>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> Anyone found out how to "follow" a discussion/entire forum?
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> ok, I got other actions now :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sty, 12:41, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > How about now?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Yes
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> Can you see the "New Topic" button on this instance?
>>>>> > >>http://forums.zoho.com/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> Yer. On mine the blue top bar has a "New Topic" button to the
>>>>> left of the
>>>>> > >>> search box.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> I can see I can invite you. Let me check the help.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>> The only actions available are
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>    -  E-mail this topic
>>>>> > >>>>    -  Private response
>>>>> > >>>>    -  Bookmark this topic
>>>>> > >>>>    -  Permalink<
>>>>> http://discussions.zoho.com/castleproject/topic/welcome-to-the-castle..
>>>>> .>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>> I would expect something like Start, Reply to Topic etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>> .. and logged in ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>> I am signed up en logged in.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jonathon Rossi <
>>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you click "Login to partitipate" on the right, then "sign
>>>>> up". Or
>>>>> > >>>>>>> is this after you are signed up?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps I am overlooking an obvious button, but how do you
>>>>> become a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> forum member?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We now have a zoho discussion board:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>http://discussions.zoho.com/castleproject
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am already finding things that are missing, hopefully the
>>>>> Zoho
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> team is responsive with feedback.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> OK. I'll contact Zoho to set up an open source account.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm at work right now, so I can't really do it.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So if you or John want to step up, be my guest.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Krzysztof
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Sty, 09:19, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I agree. If it works well then we can continue using it
>>>>> and get
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> our data
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > migrated, if it doesn't we provide feedback so they can
>>>>> improve
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I assume either you Krzysztof (because you brought it
>>>>> up) or
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> John is going
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > to create an account.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > I say we give it a shot.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Let's set up a test forum and see for ourselves, and
>>>>> then we
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> decide
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > whether we make the move or not.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > On 25 Sty, 06:18, John Simons <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > So what is the verdict, are we going to move the
>>>>> user's
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > to Zoho?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > Cheers
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > John
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > On Jan 23, 9:58 pm, Jonathon Rossi <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I think it might just be that we haven't had a
>>>>> chance to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> play with Zoho
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > know if it really suits our needs. I like UV
>>>>> because it
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> has been
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > working
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > really well for us. Does the ideas page in Zoho
>>>>> allow you
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to sort by
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > votes,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I couldn't find anything for this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Krzysztof asked the following. Dhan, are you able
>>>>> to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> provide any
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > details of
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > whether Zoho has the functionality to add a poll
>>>>> into an
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > discussion.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0
>>>>> functionality is
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> built in into
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Zoho ;D
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dhan
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > What specific feature of User Voice are you
>>>>> looking at?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> We have a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > feedback widget that can be popped up either by
>>>>> links
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> or via a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > contrast colored floater widget. What other
>>>>> features of
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> User Voice is
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > a show stopper for your needs?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > On Jan 23, 2:47 pm, Krzysztof Koźmic <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > I'm +1,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > We don't have the abandon the google group
>>>>> just yet,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> although if we
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > get
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > going with Zoho
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > as we gradually customize it to our needs, I
>>>>> think
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> we'll all find
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > it
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > more useful than google.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Also as Jono mentioned it looks like at the
>>>>> moment
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> uservoice is
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > better
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > at where they overlap
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > so we might want to stick to uservoice for
>>>>> some time
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> after that,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > and see
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > how things develop.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > The UV-like functionality in Zoho was just
>>>>> added.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Krzysztof.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > (PS)
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0
>>>>> functionality is
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> built in into
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Zoho
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > ;D
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > On 2010-01-23 10:31, Roelof Blom wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > +1
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 5:20 AM, John
>>>>> Simons
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     Yes we can just start with the users
>>>>> mailing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> list, but I
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > would
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     eventually bring both across because of
>>>>> the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> number of extra
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > features
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     Zoho provide us.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     I would not say that development
>>>>> mailing list
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> is serving us
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > that
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > well
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     either. I think it has the same problem
>>>>> of not
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> being able to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > tag
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     discussions per topic and the way we do
>>>>> voting,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> and it has no
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > way
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > of
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     subscribing to discussion topics.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     I think both lists would benefit from
>>>>> the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> features Zoho
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > provides.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     Cheers
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     John
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     On Jan 23, 3:02 pm, Jonathon Rossi <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > So are we talking about changing only
>>>>> the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> users mailing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > list,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     not the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > development mailing list. I agree the
>>>>> users
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > doesn't
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     fit our
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > users very well, however the
>>>>> development
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list works
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > well.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, John
>>>>> Simons
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     <[email protected] <mailto:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > [email protected]
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > Everyone,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > I don't know about everyone's
>>>>> experience
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> with the google
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     mailing list,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > but in my opinion it doesn't meet
>>>>> our
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> requirements,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > specially
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > users.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > The majority of threads in the
>>>>> User's
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list is
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > "How do
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     I do X?"
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > and then someone posts a solution.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > The problem with this is that we
>>>>> have no
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> idea what the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > question
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > is
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > about until we read it and if the
>>>>> solution
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> is correct or
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > not.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > Begin able to tag questions per
>>>>> topic (same
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> way SO does
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > it)
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     and mark
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > them as solved is essential for any
>>>>> support
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> system (like
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > it or
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     not the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > users mailing list is our support
>>>>> system) ,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Actually
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > people to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > get
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > around this limitation have started
>>>>> using
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> the title of
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     post as a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > tagging mechanism eg [MonoRail] or
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [ActiveRecord].
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > This limitation is also creating a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> repeated
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     questions/answers,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > if you don;t believe me do a bit of
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> browsing on the users
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > mailing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >     > > list.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > więcej >>
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