Personally, I feel disappointed. There was a lot of hype around Zoho discussions, however I feel there is a lot of usability problems and a few missing features.
Thoughts? 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> > It's a big relief that I am not alone in this, Jono :-) > > 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> > >> Don't worry. I didn't find the UI that easy to use either. I stuffed >> around clicking and hovering willy nilly to find out where things were. >> >> >> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >> >>> Pfff, thanks. I am having a bit of a hard time with the UI... >>> >>> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> >>> >>>> On All Forums, hover over the forum and there's a follow link. Then you >>>> can see new stuff in your watchlist. >>>> >>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Anyone found out how to "follow" a discussion/entire forum? >>>>> >>>>> 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> ok, I got other actions now :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 25 Sty, 12:41, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > How about now? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Yes >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> Can you see the "New Topic" button on this instance? >>>>>> > >>http://forums.zoho.com/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> Yer. On mine the blue top bar has a "New Topic" button to the >>>>>> left of the >>>>>> > >>> search box. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> I can see I can invite you. Let me check the help. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> The only actions available are >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> - E-mail this topic >>>>>> > >>>> - Private response >>>>>> > >>>> - Bookmark this topic >>>>>> > >>>> - Permalink< >>>>>> http://discussions.zoho.com/castleproject/topic/welcome-to-the-castle.. >>>>>> .> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> I would expect something like Start, Reply to Topic etc. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> .. and logged in ;-) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am signed up en logged in. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jonathon Rossi < >>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you click "Login to partitipate" on the right, then "sign >>>>>> up". Or >>>>>> > >>>>>>> is this after you are signed up? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps I am overlooking an obvious button, but how do you >>>>>> become a >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> forum member? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We now have a zoho discussion board: >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>http://discussions.zoho.com/castleproject >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am already finding things that are missing, hopefully >>>>>> the Zoho >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> team is responsive with feedback. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> OK. I'll contact Zoho to set up an open source account. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm at work right now, so I can't really do it. >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So if you or John want to step up, be my guest. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Krzysztof >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Sty, 09:19, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I agree. If it works well then we can continue using >>>>>> it and get >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> our data >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > migrated, if it doesn't we provide feedback so they >>>>>> can improve >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I assume either you Krzysztof (because you brought it >>>>>> up) or >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> John is going >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > to create an account. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > I say we give it a shot. >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Let's set up a test forum and see for ourselves, and >>>>>> then we >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> decide >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > whether we make the move or not. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > On 25 Sty, 06:18, John Simons < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > So what is the verdict, are we going to move the >>>>>> user's >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > to Zoho? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > Cheers >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > John >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > On Jan 23, 9:58 pm, Jonathon Rossi < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I think it might just be that we haven't had a >>>>>> chance to >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> play with Zoho >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > to >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > know if it really suits our needs. I like UV >>>>>> because it >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> has been >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > working >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > really well for us. Does the ideas page in Zoho >>>>>> allow you >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to sort by >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > votes, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I couldn't find anything for this? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Krzysztof asked the following. Dhan, are you >>>>>> able to >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> provide any >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > details of >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > whether Zoho has the functionality to add a poll >>>>>> into an >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> existing >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > discussion. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0 >>>>>> functionality is >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> built in into >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Zoho ;D >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dhan >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > What specific feature of User Voice are you >>>>>> looking at? >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> We have a >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > feedback widget that can be popped up either >>>>>> by links >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> or via a >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > contrast colored floater widget. What other >>>>>> features of >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> User Voice is >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > a show stopper for your needs? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > On Jan 23, 2:47 pm, Krzysztof Koźmic < >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > I'm +1, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > We don't have the abandon the google group >>>>>> just yet, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> although if we >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > get >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > going with Zoho >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > as we gradually customize it to our needs, I >>>>>> think >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> we'll all find >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > it >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > more useful than google. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Also as Jono mentioned it looks like at the >>>>>> moment >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> uservoice is >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > better >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > at where they overlap >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > so we might want to stick to uservoice for >>>>>> some time >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> after that, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > and see >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > how things develop. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > The UV-like functionality in Zoho was just >>>>>> added. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Krzysztof. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > (PS) >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0 >>>>>> functionality is >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> built in into >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Zoho >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > ;D >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > On 2010-01-23 10:31, Roelof Blom wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > +1 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 5:20 AM, John >>>>>> Simons >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto: >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Yes we can just start with the users >>>>>> mailing >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> list, but I >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > would >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > eventually bring both across because >>>>>> of the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> number of extra >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > features >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Zoho provide us. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > I would not say that development >>>>>> mailing list >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> is serving us >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > that >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > well >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > either. I think it has the same >>>>>> problem of not >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> being able to >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > tag >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > discussions per topic and the way we >>>>>> do voting, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> and it has no >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > way >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > of >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > subscribing to discussion topics. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > I think both lists would benefit from >>>>>> the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> features Zoho >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > provides. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Cheers >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > John >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 3:02 pm, Jonathon Rossi < >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > So are we talking about changing >>>>>> only the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> users mailing >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > list, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > not the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > development mailing list. I agree >>>>>> the users >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > doesn't >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > fit our >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > users very well, however the >>>>>> development >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list works >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > well. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, >>>>>> John Simons >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto: >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > [email protected] >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Everyone, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > I don't know about everyone's >>>>>> experience >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> with the google >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > mailing list, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > but in my opinion it doesn't meet >>>>>> our >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> requirements, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > specially >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > users. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > The majority of threads in the >>>>>> User's >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> mailing list is >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > "How do >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > I do X?" >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > and then someone posts a solution. >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > The problem with this is that we >>>>>> have no >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> idea what the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > question >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > is >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > about until we read it and if the >>>>>> solution >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> is correct or >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > not. >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Begin able to tag questions per >>>>>> topic (same >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> way SO does >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > it) >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > and mark >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > them as solved is essential for >>>>>> any support >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> system (like >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > it or >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > not the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > users mailing list is our support >>>>>> system) , >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Actually >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > people to >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > get >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > around this limitation have >>>>>> started using >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> the title of >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > the >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > post as a >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > tagging mechanism eg [MonoRail] or >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [ActiveRecord]. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > This limitation is also creating a >>>>>> lot of >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> repeated >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > questions/answers, >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > if you don;t believe me do a bit >>>>>> of >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> browsing on the users >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > mailing >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > list. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > więcej >> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You 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