Scott,

You miss my point. As commander in chief, how can Clinton give the order to 
young men in this country to go to war when he wasn't willing to do it 
himself. I believe in leadership by example, and in that regard clinton 
makes a poor leader.

-George


>From: Scott Goldsberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Waaay OT: US elections (soap boxish)
>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:11:13 -0600
>
>Currently I am a computer programmer...I majored in History and Political
>Science in college and now never get to use that knowledge, so here is my
>two cents.
>
>Disclaimer:  no disrespect intended to the men and women who fought in the
>Vietnam War.  If the truth bothers you, don't read any more.
>
>Yes, Clinton avoided the draft.  Why? because, like many young adults of 
>the
>time, he didn't agree that a military option was the best option to defeat
>communism, and, secondly, HE DIDN'T WANT TO DIE.  Although America lost the
>Vietnam conflict, we won the war.  That's what those men and women fought
>for in Vietnam, and on the college campuses in the 60's and 70's, and in 
>the
>military reserves in Texas, and behind the lines documenting the conflict.
>
>You don't have to carry a gun and fight in combat to have honor or bravery
>as a personal virtue.  My mom's a teacher in an inner city high school.  
>You
>want to see someone with honor?  Pay her a visit and the thousands of other
>men and women who teach along side her, risking their lives every day.  
>When
>you do visit, keep in mind the only difference between her and a Vietnam
>veteran is that she is only armed with her mind...she doesn't have a gun,
>she doesn't have cover, she doesn't have a buddy to pull her out of a
>foxhole.  And you better believe the enemy is well armed with guns,
>firearms, knives, bombs, etc.
>
>Instead of worrying about whether or not the President of the United States
>served in Vietnam, shouldn't we be more concerned about the fact that the
>men and women who died in Vietnam are losing their legacy?  What do we say
>to the younger generation?  They can't find Vietnam on the map...well 
>that's
>ok.  What should worry us is that they can't find America on the map 
>either.
>
>Food for thought...anyone with a new topic?  - SG
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 2:43 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Waaay OT: US elections (soap boxish)
>
>
>Oh and pray tell where our buddy gore was? Was he safe behind he lines
>writing articles?
>
>-GK
>
>
> >From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Waaay OT: US elections (soap boxish)
> >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:00:01 -0500
> >
> >An excerpt from "Fortunate Son"
> >(http://www.softskull.com/html/gwhighlights.html)
> >
> >
> >a.. Although many draft-age Americans thought the war in Vietnam was
> >unjust,
> >George W. Bush's draft-dodging used his social status and backroom deals.
> >Although the waiting lists for alternative service in the National Guard
> >were over 100,000 names long, Houston oilman Sidney A. Adger contacted
> >Texas
> >House Speaker Ben Barnes for a special intercession on behalf of young
> >Bush.
> >George W. was admitted instantly into the Texas Air National Guard and 
>was
> >promoted to officer in an unprecedented few months, bypassing the 
>required
> >23 month officer candidate programs. Bush flew the F-102 aircraft, which
> >was
> >being phased out of service at the time. Despite his claims to the 
>contrary
> >today, there was never any chance Bush would ever see action in Vietnam.
> >
> >Ciao
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "George Kaytor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 2:50 PM
> >Subject: RE: Waaay OT: US elections (soap boxish)
> >
> >
> > > Ah yes, was it the words of Jefferson - " I may disagree with what you
> >say,
> > > but I would give my life to insure your right to say it?" One of my 
>very
> > > concepts.
> > >
> > > Actually, most of the combat veterans that I know ( quite a few, as I
> >used
> > > to work in the post office) felt that clinton's election was a slap to
> >their
> > > face.
> > >
> > > -GK
> >
> >
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