Gel,
I read your message below very carefully, and I ask this as a serious
question so that I may best understand your point of view and for no other
reason, I assure you: are you a Communist?
Respectfully,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: One Libertarian point of view?
> Look,
>
> The point I've been making, is that Corporations are concerned with making
money. Making more of it, while putting out as
> little of it as possible.
>
> Greed is a selfish, terrible thing that helps absolutely no one. You
cannot base a way of life, and a society on Greed and
> expect it to grow and flourish! It will stunt itself and die in a few
years time.
>
> Greed exists today, but it is buffered by Government regulations and our
society's structure. Remove those regulations,
> remove that structure and 'trust' companies to do 'what's right' is naive.
Companies will do what is right for THEM and their
> owners and shareholders..and that's just what they SHOULD be doing!
>
> Anyone that says I couldn't be bothered to give any part of what I earn to
those in need is selfish and self centered, and
> this is something I keep saying about Libertarian philosophy. It is a
selfish, self-centered way of living and thinking that
> seems designed for rich and well off White people to continue Infinitely
in a position of dominance over the rest of society.
>
> In a Libertarian society which revolves around Greed and Wealth and the
acquisition of wealth above all else, there will be
> next to zero chance for upward mobility for those that are born poor.
>
> I don't buy for a minute that every rich person is going to be a
philanthropist and help those below them by their business
> practices to acheive more wealth.Some might, but the majority will not!
> What will result is a CLASS CASTE SYSTEM!
>
> THAT is how human nature currently works, and THAT will be the result of a
society that seems to think rather naively and
> irrationally that Wealth Breeds Wealth , relying only on the goodness of
the human heart like some Midas Touch. What? People
> will suddenly change overnight in a Libertarian society????
>
> I believe there was a survey a while back that polled owners and
executives at Fortune 500 companies anonymously,and asked
> them if there was no tax incentive to give to charity organisations
whether they would. YOu know what the unanimous response
> was?
>
> NO!
>
> Saying that some things can be handled at a State level doesn't mean that
these things WOULD be handled at a State level,
> there's nothing holding a State to provide health care , since the only
way this could be funded is through some form of
> taxation.
>
> I say again, the Libertarian philosophy is selfish and self centered, and
poor people and 'minority' groups would roll over
> and die in such a society.
>
> Because just as some on this list have said that they ***don't see why
they should have to give to anyone in need***, is the
> same way that perhaps 90% of the population feels.
> So those disadvantaged in society would literally roll over and die like
crud on the bottom of the $500 shoes of business
> owners. I mean god..just thinking about it is like some Nightmare post
apocalyptic movie or something with "Outlanders" and
> "Inner City" folk and crap.
>
> That's the promise of a Libertarian society, and that's why I say that
such a theory, and Libertarian philosophies are
> dreadfully flawed.
>
> Mankind, a society, cannot move forward..cannot grow and expand and
overcome our problems until we learn to think beyond
> ourselves, and to think on a broader scale that impacts all mankind.
>
> Do I toss a cigarrette into dry brush because I can? Or do I think about
those that can be killed or made homeless should a
> fire start?
> Do I say hell no I'm not giving to a charity whether I can afford to or
not, or do I think about the poor and suffering that
> depend on such services whom I can help?
> Do we try to distribute food and resources to other countries and people
in need, or do we horde it all away for a rainy day.
> These decisions CANNOT and WILL NOT be made at the highest levels of
Government, until WE The PEOPLE in the SOCIETY start
> thinking that way..until WE WANT IT!
> Until we COLLECTIVELY want an end to world hunger and famine, it will NOT
HAPPEN!
> Until we COLLECTIVELY want an end to these petty border struggles and
religious violence that happen worldwide, it WILL NOT
> HAPPEN.
> Until you solve the internal struggles of this PLANET you will never see
Space and the wonders out there.You will never
> progress to the points of those prophets that expressed 'Star Trek'...
>
> Libertarianism does NOT foster such thinking, it fosters only *I*,without
thought to morality, without thought to a Societal
> Good and progression.
> Only ME and MINE matter.
> And if my neighbour suddenly ends up on the street, then screw him..Its
His Own Damned Fault.
>
> Libertarianism is flawed.And THAT is why it will never progress and never
hold a place of great importance in people's minds,
> or in the politics of any country in the world.That is why all Libertarian
parties are broken and fragmented and can never
> agree on anything.
>
> -Gel
>
>
>
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