But the reason Clinton could do that was because of the Tax Increase from
George Bush Sr.
These things don't happen overnight. They take months and years to get
going. During the first Bush administration he raised the taxes. By doing
so he made the money that Clinton and the Republican Congress used to
create a surplus and pay down the deficit.
Now the surplus is starting to add up. They are taking more money from
Americans than they are using. They are not even using it to pay down the
deficit, it is just sitting there making interest. It is money that they
took from me to pay for programs that I might not like and to make more
money off of it to spend on more programs that I might not like.
I don't mind the $1 trillion they have marked for mandatory spending, it is
the other $700 billion.
I agree with the idea that they are for services rendered. But I didn't
request some of these services, does that mean I can call and get them
taken off of my bill?
As for other countries, they can have higher taxes because the federal
government takes care of more of the government and they have less people.
Here we have a nation, then a state, and then a county, and then a city.
I am being taxed by three different governments, the city and county are
the same here. And I have other withholdings as well and then sales tax. I
don't care about the taxes in other countries, I just think I have to pay
too much in income tax.
At 11:58 AM 8/29/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Lee,
>
>As for evidence, how about the congressional budget office, or the US
>Census? According to the stats, Ronnie Raygun's ran the budget up 3 or 4
>times from the level it had with Jimmy Carter. The record is quite plain
>when it comes to Clinton, the federal deficit was significantly reduced
>throughout his term in office. Look at the heritage foundation's notes on
>the deficit - that place is packed with Clinton haters, yet even they admit
>that the deficit mushroomed under Ronnie Raygun and G Bush Sr., and dropped
>under Clinton. Check out http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/stecgovt.html or
>http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/. Here's another good source:
>http://www.concordcoalition.org/
>
>Having looked at the Heritage foundation's tax calculator, it really is
>rather biased. It makes a series of economic assumptions that just do not
>hold water. Laughable really.
>
>My own take on taxes is that they are a bill from the federal government to
>the citizens for services rendered, like the VA, national defense,
>scientific research etc. Stuff I have no problem paying. One thing most
>Americans forget is that they have among the lowest taxes in the developed
>world, definitely the lowest among the group of 8 countries. Yet what they
>get for it is way out of proportion for what they pay for. Its an amazing
>deal.
>
>regards,
>
>larry
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:12 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Bushwacked again
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> >
> > >This is nonsense because historically, the Republicans have
> > spent more than
> > >the Democrats. Look at the monster deficits Reagan ran up --
> > and he would
> > >have spent more if the Democrats in Congress hadn't stopped
> > >him.
> > >
> >
> > Please point me to any reliable source that would back this
> > up(not CNN and not an editorial, real numbers). Didn't we
> > have a Democrat majority back then?
> >
> >
> > >If Gore were president, we probably would have had much what
> > we had under
> > >Clinton -- smaller government, less spending, better economy.
> > >
> >
> > This is so laughable it doesn't deserve comment.
> >
> > >for the first time since Ike. And Gore is more naturally conservative
> > >fiscally than Clinton.
> > >
> >
> > More laughs!
> >
> >
> > >And I don't see nobody handing me thousands of dollars, etc.
> > >
> >
> > Assuming you make what a typical programmer does, and the
> > Democrats don't screw it up, you should save thousands per
> > year, increasing over the next ten years. Please calculate
> > your savings and send it back to the feds if you don't like
> > it. Just don't force me and everyone else to do the same.
> > I'm not sure if this is accurate but check out
> >
> > http://www.heritage.org/taxcalculator
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
>
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