But if its outside what is the real world isn't that basically lieing to him? Either he's going to think you lied to him or that you didn't have a clue what life was like. Ask him whathe thinks, kids are the most none hating bunch we have in the world until they are taught to hate and discriminate.
If you leave religon out of it and talk to him about it i would bet he says people should be able to do what makes them happy.


William Wheatley
Coldfusion Guru

    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Monique Boea
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:45 PM
  Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

  Bill, I have already had the gay conversation with my son.

  I simply told him that people believe differently than we do.

  That is not closedminded or scared of something different.

  It is simply what I believe.

  And I don't tell him that people don't have gay sex. I tell him how I feel
  about it.

  Period.

  I am not telling him to reject others beliefs I am simply establising a
  system of beliefs for me and my home.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:26 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

  You teach him to love and respect everyone but you don't tell him people
  have gay sex? And i'm sorry if your value of life is different then some
  people
  who have more open minds but come on you are going to start sounding like a
  religous zealot.  My favorite pastor in the world who married me was very
  open to anyones beliefs and because he lived in the real world he even told
  his kids about what it was and that it was those peoples choice.

  I get tired of when people play the GOD card as their excuse for being
  closeminded and scared of something different. God loves everyone no matter
  what, end of story.

  Now where what you choose to do when raising your kids will help determine
  how they turn out. You either say when 2 people in love and married/civil
  union have sex and be honest. Or you say a man/woman and you keep them
  living in the dark ages. You can only shelter a kid for so long before they
  realize, hay mom is full of crap or she has no clue about real life.

  *shrugs* good luck to you, you'll need it.

  William Wheatley
  Coldfusion Guru

      Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
  for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Monique Boea
    To: CF-Community
    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:59 PM
    Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

    It has an affect on society, our families, our communities.

    If you are not opposed to it, then that would sound like a big crock of
  you
    know what to you.

    But, I have a 7 year old son, who I am raising in a Christian household. I
    teach him to love and respect everyone (not matter what color, race, sex
  and
    sexual preference :) )

    However, when he asks me. "Mommy what is sex?" (Yes, they ask at 7) My
    answer is "Sex is something that a man and a women does who loves each
  other
    and who is married. It is pleasurable. And we do not believe in sex
  outside
    of marriage because we are Christians" Blah Blah Blah. (Those aren't my
    exact words...but you get the gist).

    Me, along with everyone else who share those views are creating a standard
    for our children to live by, thus creating a sense of community for them
  to
    live by based on our religious beliefs. No group of people should force us
    to change that!!!!!!!

    Now, when my son comes home and says 'Mommy, I saw two men kissing on tv"
  Or
    I met a boy at school who has two daddy's, blah blah blah. This threatens
    the value of life, the value of the sense of "community" that I have
    estabished for me and my family.

    And this isn't just regarding gay issues. I think the American society is
    over-exposed, over-fed, over-sexed, too open and "moral-less" and
    "value-less". And it is getting rather sickening. A modern day Sodom and
    Gomorrah.

    This is what has a lot of people up in arms.

    How far do we go? Do we have no limits?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:35 PM
    To: CF-Community
    Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

    You are assuming that a person opposing gay marriage is concerned with
  their
    own rights, and this is most likely not true. If allowing marriage to
    encompass all sorts of "fringe" groups in the eyes of a married man and
    woman somehow dilutes the institution they are a part of, then i can see
  how
    they would most CERTAINLY see this as having an affect on them.

    Whether they are right or wrong is the crux of the debate, but to say it
  has
    no affect on currently married men and women is just not true.

    Brian

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jerry Johnson
      To: CF-Community
      Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:04 PM
      Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

      <snip>

      And I don't see that allowing 2 people over their to marry affects your
    rights at all. Unless you are afraid you will be forced into a gay
  marriage.
    That (and only that) would affect you.

      Jerry Johnson
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