I don't think there is any great one-size-fits all solution to fraud
except better organization, which was not present at Kerry
headquarters in NM at least. I do think that demonstrated fraud should
be prosecuted when possible. Pour encourager les autres :)

However, however. The question of the Diebold machines should be
addressed by the progressive community. While I am not asserting that
they were a factor in this election, it does occur to me that this is
at least as possible an explanation as any other.

Dana


On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 15:43:34 -0500, Jim Davis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In my district in MA it's still Pen and Paper voting.
> 
> Each district/state controls its own voting process.  So while I can watch
> the aftermath carefully I've really no right to "protest" another districts
> use of whatever machines they want.
> 
> Personally I'm all for country-wide consistency in, at least, Federal
> elections.  But that's just not going to happen.
> 
> As for the broader issue of fraud I don't think it has anything to do with
> the machines.  Both parties have lower forms of life in them that do this.
> Throw away registrations, call voters with incorrect information about their
> polling place or times and misrepresent the other party.
> 
> It's vile, sickening and should be prosecuted more often (I believe that
> federal election fixing is considered treason) but it's definitely not a
> solely Republican issue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:28 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Voter Fraud? Why are the exit polls so wrong in Florida?
> 
> Heh heh.
> 
> You know what I don't understand?
> Where were both of you when they were getting those electronic voting
> machines?
> 
> I know that it was in the news more than once.
> 
> Did any of you request more information from their representatives?
> Did you write in and let your voice be heard?
> Did you try to organise some sort of resistance against the voting machines?
> 
> And if not, then you know quite well how Bush was voted in, even if so many
> people supposedly didn't want him there.
> Because the party you supported/wanted to vote for didn't do enough either.
> They just..'assumed' that American people would do the right thing. They
> 'assumed' that people would realise the lies and the deceit
> that they were fed and vote against that.
> 
> What they should have assumed, is that the IQ of the average american isn't
> over 100, so they should have assumed that they would
> have to work a lot harder to get the message across. They didn't do it
> right.
> 
> The 'gun toting' 'zealots' 'fanatics' and 'maniacs' are just dumb,single
> minded and passionate enough to fight for what they want,
> and darn well let their voice be heard.They didn't want no darn faggots
> getting married, and they made sure they put a candidate in
> office who wouldn't let no faggots get married. They didn't want no body
> killing no babies because the good lord says it's wrong, so
> they made sure that they voted for that.
> 
> And now that Bush is back in office these 'good' 'intelligent' people want
> to leave America.
> 
> It's amusing on both sides of the equation.
> To me as an outsider looking in, it's very clear how and why bush was
> re-elected.And so far all I've heard post election suggests
> that in 2008, a Republican will be President again.
> 
> -Gel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> yes. Investigation not litigation at this point, as the Democratic candidate
> has conceded. Therefore it doesn't matter who won the
> vote But I think we need more safeguards than this in the next election.
> Also, Bernalillo County here is a poster child for why the strategy of
> requesting an absentee ballot to create a paper trail does
> not work
> 
> Dana
> 
> 

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