well, afaik in the catholic church abortion is murder, and murder -- all
murder -- is very serious and does not go away through confession or afaik
good works. As mentioned, I am not a current memeber so this may be
erroneous or out of date.
 Dana

 On 10/10/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, all mainstream Protestant denomiations are based on a
> "Faith Alone" doctrine. I've heard it both ways for Catholicism -
> Faith+Works will be you to Heaven.
>
> However, James does say that faith is dead without works, but it's not the
> works that get you to Heaven there - it's the faith. That is to say that a
> person who, at the minute he dies, repents and professes faith, will get
> to
> Heaven. If works are necessary, he can't get there. That's why Protestant
> religions have a "Faith Alone" doctrine.
>
>
> Matthew Small
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:00 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: You cannot be Catholic and Pro-Choice
>
> I am not sure about the you will be forgiven if you believe in Christ
> part.
> I think this is only some sects.
>
> Dana
>
> On 10/10/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > God has a policy of forgiveness, and He also cannot be in the presence
> > of sin. However, let me paraphrase the bumper sticker for you:
> >
> > "If you are a true believer of the Catholic faith, then you don't
> > believe in abortion."
> >
> > Since the Catholic Church has an official stance on that, the bumper
> > sticker is correct: you cannot be a Catholic and be pro-choice. It's
> > an either-or
> > situation: either you are in the club, or you are not.
> >
> > It is possible to be a person believing in God and Jesus Christ and
> > also be pro-choice, it's just a matter of denomination, and whether or
> > not you believe that abortion is the killing of a life. However,
> > should you be correct in that there is a God, you will have to answer
> > for your sins to Him. That usually gives pause for reflection to a
> > peson who claim to be a Christian and also feels that abortion is a
> > moral act.
> >
> > Lastly, whether or not you feel that abortion is moral, whether or not
> > you actually do it, you will be forgiven if you believe in Christ.
> >
> > Please don't point holes in this argument out to me. It's not my
> > argument, I didn't invent it, I don't need to be convinced otherwise,
> > and I'm just trying to help Ken understand it.
> >
> > Matthew Small
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:33 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: You cannot be Catholic and Pro-Choice
> >
> > I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "You cannot be Catholic
> > and Pro-Choice"
> >
> > I wonder if God is really that strict? I thought he had a policy of
> > forgiveness etc... I believe I shouldn't dictate what other people do
> > with their bodies so I am damned to hell. Seems kinda harsh.
> >
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