I am so tired of race this, race that, blah blah blah. (Now, my rant might be flawed, but I don't care enough about this whole debate to come up with a better one, or play the nit-picky semantics game. You know what I'm getting at. So, don't waste your time poking holes in it, because I'm not going to take the time to respond :)
I highly doubt if the a speciffic group of the KKK suddenly went on a terrorist rampage and blew up everything in sight and the authorities started investigating, questioning, and scrutinizing all white males, that you would hear people crying foul and screaming about the evils of racial profiling. Now, I don't know much of anything about the KKK, but I'm sure they aren't *all* white males, but most are. So .. who do you investigate? You investigate white males. You don't investigate black females, or Arabs, or East Indians, or whatever. That would just be plain dumb. So .. is it racial profiling if a black cop is suspicious of a white man based on other bits of clues he has uncovered? hmmm .. what if that black cop's white partner is participating? What if it's only a white cop questioning him? What if the pilot that had questioned the SS guy been an Arab himself? I bet you wouldn't have heard a damn word about racial anything. It probably would have ended up as a back page story. Oh .. I also find it amusing that a lot of the people out and about that are bitching about racial profiling are the same ones who discriminate against others based soley on their political affiliation, or their nationality, or their lifestyle (Americans are egotistical, arrogant, lazy, spoiled, bullying war-mongers; Goths are all violent, freaky, anti-social devil worshipers; etc.). Now, I know that racism does exist and I'm not trying to downplay it, but when you hear some kind of racial motivation being attributed to every damned thing in the world when 2 different races are involved, it starts to sound less and less like true racism and more like that guy from Monty Python and the Holy Grail screaming "Help, help, I'm being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!" to get some attention, or to create a stir. Geez .. what's next .. major headlines about how racial profiling is spreading into the animal kingdom when a black cat and a white cat get in to a fight? "Come see the violence inherent in the animal kingdom!" Todd ----- Todd for President *sigh*, for a better tomorrow. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: RE: We are in big trouble > My comments inline beginning with *** and ending with *** > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 1:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: We are in big trouble > > > <snip> > > And like it or not, looking Arab these days means you can potentially come > > under scrutiny. There are apparently thousands, if not millions, of Arabs > > who want to do us harm. No amount of politically correct bullshit is going > > to change that fact. So, if you're Arab, after 911, and you fit other > > aspects of the terrorist profile (again, being Arab, alone, is not > enough), > > you are going to be stopped and questioned. That is only right and proper > to > > protect innocent lives. > </snip> > > I objective to the institutionalisation of 'racial profiling'. This > alienates groups and promotes racial divides rather than racial > understanding. > > *** How much plainer do I need to be -- what I describe is NOT ... IT IS NOT > .. IT IS NOT ... racial profiling. What I describe uses race as one VALID > factor in determining suspects. Just as if we were looking for all blond men > with scares on their checks. In a case as I describe, race is a descriptive > factor, not a prejudicial factor. Get it? *** > > It validates the link between the words 'Arab' and > 'Terrorist' which in turn makes it difficult for your average American to > have a deeper understanding of what happened on Sept 11. > > *** This is just bullshit. You give Americans no credit for being > intelligent *** > > Things are > simplified into ignorant racial dichotomies which absolve local authorities > from any blame for what happened on Sept 11. > > *** How are local authorities to blame? *** > > Where blame is wholly > transformed into the basic understanding that dark skinned people look like > 'Arab Terrorists'. > > *** Nobody is saying this at all. You're not paying attention. *** > > The discussion digresses into a simple and ignorant > hatred of those 'Arab Terrorists' rather than 'Why were we attacked and by > who specifically and how can we prevent it in the future?'. > > *** It certainly hasn't digressed that way in this case. Americans clearly > understand the issues -- we were blatantly, without provocation attacked by > a megalomaniac, using brainwashed puppets, simply because he and people of > his ilk hate our way of life. Paint it in any shade of socialist, leftist > anti-American propaganda (of which you are so found of), you like, but the > basic essence boils down to just that. How can we prevent it in the future? > We're already in the process of doing that -- or haven't you been following > the news? *** > > > People with > non-white skin color and 'funny names' become evidence of potential > terrorists. We are not moving forward with this kind of thinking. > > *** There may be some nut cases in this country who think that way, but it > certainly isn't the policy of this country nor is it what the majority of > Americans believe. So your concern is really misguided. *** > > > Is it being politically correct to criticize the basic forming (validation) > of a relationship between darker skin color and terrorism? > > *** Again, you are misreading the whole issue. The issue isn't a > relationship between darker skin and terrorism, it is a bare essential fact > that the majority of terrorists who wish to attack the American way of life, > come from Saudi Arabia. You can't escape that fact and no amount of > politically correct illogic is going to save you from that fact. *** > > So simple and > powerful a message that it becomes the only understanding of the events. I > would even suggest that 'radical profiling' is a form of terrorism as well - > > *** Yes, racial profiling is. But we're not talking about racial profiling. > We're talking about terrorist profiling, were race is only but one factor to > consider, and where to ignore race would be morally reprehensible and an > ethical abrogation of a law enforcement officers duties *** > > however subtle and while not necessarily violent (although I don't think > that would always be the case) shares some of the effects of terrorism. In > your example you said that the Simi sheriff's deputies stopped every black > male. They were able to do this because of the 'generally accepted' > behavioural models set by their superiors and the media. > > *** Certainly set by the Sheriff, but where do you drag the media into this? > I never mentioned the media. The fact is, if not for the local media, > meaning my employer, this bit of racial profiling would never have come to > light. It certainly hasn't been accepted by the media as the media in this > case has editorialized against it. *** > > This is a trickle > down effect. If you validate racial profiling from the very top of this > order, it translates into an obvious (and sometimes violent) loss of human > rights. > > *** who was validating the Simi deputies' conduct? Certainly not me. And if > you think I did, you need to reread what I wrote. *** > > Sure a 'good police work' involves the collection of real evidence. > Do you really believe that 'good police practice' is the norm in America? In > these times? > > *** Yes I do. Do I believe that there are bad cops who do bad work? Yes I > do. Do I believe bad cops are the norm. No I do not. *** > > Not even the American government presented a solid case to > persecute those who perpetrated 9-11. > > *** The case as presented thus far is rock solid. How can an intelligent > person say otherwise? Haven't you read the indictment against Moussoui > (sp?)? There is certainly enough there to convict, and the investigation > isn't even finished. *** > > Do you think your average town sheriff > is going to bother themselves with justice when they are taught (by the > highest, most influential institutions in the country) that the Arabs are > the enemy and it's ok to detain them bases on skin color. > > *** Nobody, absolutely nobody -- and I defy you to prove otherwise -- in the > government is teaching that Arabs are the enemy. *** > > Calling something > politically correct is a means of over-simplifying an important issue. > Consider the depth of the issue. > > *** I wish you would follow your own advice. *** > > H. ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
