Actually, I let the comment drop because I didn't feel like getting into 
that argument. There was a jibe in the initial title because the article 
itself delves into that argument and that fact is that I myself have 
actually predicted on this list that such utter nonsense would come to play 
via the argument for homosexual marriage.  And here I am, right about it.

What I really find interesting is that your response to zoophilia is about 
the same as many people's towards homosexuality.  Logic aside, there are 
many people who just don't think that homosexual marriage makes any sense 
with the same emotion that you make clear in your post.  However, that's as 
far as I feel like discussing this issue because it's a dead horse.  I will 
decline to answer your direct question because my own feelings on any 
marriage outside of male-female relationships are probably well-known or are 
at least inferred with the responses that I've posted today to certain 
threads.

However, there was no question about the homosexual marraige in the response 
to Gel.  He insinuated that he knew of research that indicated that this 
kind of relationship was actually harmful to the animal.  That's what really 
interests me - the fact that this research exists and the actual outcome. 
Is it harmful because the animal was physically hurt?  Is it emotional hurt? 
Where in the world did they find test subjects?  Why does Gel know about it?

Those are the hard-hitting questions I have for Gel.

- Matt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.


> OK, fair enough, but I still think you're implying something ridiculous
> here...I noticed you didn't respond to the marriage comment, either.  I
> mean, you put a reference to marriage in the subject, then played th
> passive-aggressive card (or actually, in this case it would be
> aggressive-passive), saying "I didn't make any statements".  But that's
> not really what I wanted to know about anyways.
>
> To put it bluntly: Are you saying that if we let two Homosexshuls get
> married, we should let Fifi and her owner get married, too?
>
> Chesty Puller wrote:
>> I didn't make any statements, I asked why was it harmful to the dog. It
>> probably is harmful, but I don't know why it is, and I was asking Gel to
>> explain why it was since he seemed to know about the research.  Sometimes
>> questions are meant to be answered as they are asked.
>>
>> - Matt
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Dude, are you serious?  Are you asking why sexually assaulting a dog is
>>>harmful to the dog?  Would you like it?
>>>
>>>And I'm sorry, but if you're fishing at comparing homosexual marriage to
>>>man and dog, it just is not comparable.  One's the conscious decision of
>>>two willing persons, the other is abuse of an animal, plain and simple.
>>> They just aren't the same, and I get tried of hearing that argument...
>>>
>>>Chesty Puller wrote:
>>>
>>>>Does this research exist? How would you get it?  Why is it harmful?
>>>>
>>>>- Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Vivec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:40 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yup.
>>>>>Soon people will be marrying their dogs.
>>>>>*smirk*
>>>>>Why should ANYTHING be seen as immoral after all?
>>>>>
>>>>>The fact that the writer didn't touch on the research which says such
>>>>>interactions are harmful to the animal and should fall under Cruelty
>>>>>to animals is interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12/28/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.slate.com/id/103801/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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