On 12/5/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I can share your sentiment. On my birthday my wife and I went out > with two couples for dinner and drinks. Somehow that same conversation came > up, and I nonchalantly announced my atheism. One of the women gasped and > asked me rather heatedly how I could say such things. For the next few > minutes during the conversation I felt like I was the dirty outcast. If you > knew me though, you'd know I don't much care. :) >
I think this is one of the reasons why I like the U.K. so much. In the pubs, the overwhelming majority of people seemed agnostic or atheist. > Z, if you get a chance, you need to pick up the latest issue of Wired and > read the article about Atheism. I know you're agnostic, but I think that > you'd enjoy the read very much no matter. It discusses a lot of the same > situations you mentioned. If nothing else, it's entertaining. Might even > be online too, I am not sure. Found the article, I'll have to read it later...it's a long read! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:04 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: mixed religion households > > Importance: High > > > > First off, in case you don't know, I'm agnostic. Agnostic in the > > sense that I can't prove what's out there, but then again, if there is > > something out there, I'm certain it's not the god/gods we've been > > worshiping on this rock. My wife grew up methodist, but no longer > > goes to church, and believes in the god of the bible. My daughters > > have all gone to a baptist based mothers-day-out (my wifes grandmother > > is baptist and attends here) program for years up until now when my > > oldest is now in a secular school. I kinda cringe whenever I hear my > > daughters singing these religious songs and definitely didn't like > > hearing my daughter expound on why she wanted a dress with a cross on > > it (so everyone would know that jesus died for her...and she was 5 at > > the time). My wife also agreed with me that the dress thing was a > > little over the top so we put my daughter in public school > > kindergarten instead of the kindergarten program they had at this > > church. > > > > Anyway, last night we were talking about our circle of friends and how > > all the men are agnostic while the women have faith. She remarked > > that friend A's husband would at least go to church with them to set a > > good example. I replied that I didn't think that was setting a good > > example at all because it would be hypocrisy. She thinks that without > > my catholic upbringing, I wouldn't have the knowledge to make my > > decision today. I look back on my catholic upbringing as a wasted > > effort at brainwashing. The conversation ended with this remark, > > "Let's not talk about this anymore, this is something I'm not proud > > of"........ouch! That was a dagger. > > > > The conversation wasn't heated at all, and I really don't think she > > meant to be hurtful, but it seems to me that she believes my > > agnosticism to be defect of some sort. I didn't say anything about it > > last night, but it really did bother me throughout the night. I have > > a feeling that most mixed religion households would probably go > > through this and that I might be overreacting. The thing is, the > > feeling is not reciprocal, I'm neither proud nor ashamed that she's > > got a faith in god. That's just who she is, and I'm proud of her in > > whole. > > > > thanks for letting me get that off my chest. :) > > > > feel free to chime in and tell me that this is the norm :) > > > > > > -- > > "You scumbag, you maggot > > You cheap lousy faggot > > Happy christmas your arse > > I pray God its our last" > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:221670 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
