Again, honest answer.  I can't sepperate myself from the discussion.
It's personal.  I know that.  I tried to go back in Dec, but I can't
till I'm off probation for this thing.

Then I'l be back where I belong, because it's not here in this country.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:22 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: My Cousin was hit by an IED in Iraq

Tim, I know you feel that way, but I think you are completely unfair.

It is not a case of staying power.

It is distrust, disgust, bitterness, empathy, dislike, anger, boredom,
disempowerment.

If we had not pulled out of Afghanistan to start on Iraq, how would
that conflict now be doing?

If Bush had listened to his advisors in the military who wanted more
boots right away, where would we be today in Iraq?

If Bush were to ask for and send 150,000 more troops to Iraq right
now, where would we be? (I think the American people would have been
completely behind this type of move, rather than the piddly "increase"
he ordered up).

And to pull in the generic "left" is disingenous of you - and you know
it.

How again does planning to kill kids in huge numbers help our country?
(Listen to Greg's plan - how does it strike you? Do you thikn it will
suddenly make America safe? Or do you think it would be the biggest
mistake in the history of the world to nuke Iraq right now?)



On 3/5/07, Heald, Timothy J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are they innocent?  They allowed themselves to be ruled by a tyrant.
> They allow the insurgents to live in their community, they give them
> food and money.
>
> I mean, we can talk about "the kids" all day.  Seems like it's the
lefts
> favorite tactic in this country.
>
> You ever been military, combat arms?  You have to make a million tough
> dicisions a day.  That only gets worse as you rise through the ranks.
> The basics of this decision to me is the fact that I don't want my
kids
> in Iraq, and the only way I can insure that is to win total victory
and
> compliance, the way we did in WW2.  Most of you people don't have the
> staying power to do what we would need to do in iraq and Afghanistan
in
> order to win, that limits the range of possible responses, in my mind
> bringing us down to nuke em.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: My Cousin was hit by an IED in Iraq
>
> Greg Wrote:
> >I'd be okay with and not miss nuking that
> >country and several others back to the stone age.
>
> Then I guess you are a much less moral person than I.  I am NOT on
board
> with killing innocent people because they happen to live in a country
> that I
> don't like.
>
> How is the action of killing thousands of innocent people any more
right
> than Saddam himself doing it back in the 80's?
>
>
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