Actually, I think the problem with this discussion is we are not using the
word "evidence" in the same way.

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> At what point are you confused. I'll try to break it down further, if you
> like.  But it's just a set of logical propositions reaching a conclusion:
>
> To deny one has faith in the existence or non-existence of God isI
> irrational.
>
> H.
>
>
>
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> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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>
> *falls over in confused stupor*
>
> -Gel
>
>
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> I think it's a valid comparison.
>
> The Loch Ness monster seems to be a creature of myth. Perfectly rational
> people believe they have seen Nessy, but there is little if any
> empirical evidence to support the existence of the Nessy. It is equally
> hard to prove that God does not exist as it is to prove that Nessy does
> not exist.
>
> As I suggested earlier, the flaw of the game is that it presupposes that
> faith is not rational. Pure faith can be a rational response to ones
> environment. You need not be crazy or stupid to have faith. And since
> all things that cannot be proven one way another (such as the existence
> or lack of existence of God or Nessy) are matters of faith, to say that
> faith is irrational is to say that all people are irrational, because
> all people, at the end of the day, base their ultimate beliefs about God
> on faith. If all people are irrational, than the statements of none can
> be trusted. But since we can observe that some people are rational, and
> since all people have faith, and since in rational people, their faith
> is founded on some sort of reasonable response to experience, then we
> must conclude that faith is rational.
>
> It is the proclamation of a lack of faith that is irrational because the
> person who proclaims a lack of faith is denying all evidence to the
> contrary that he cannot disprove the existence of God.
>
> H.
>
>
> 
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