Fair enough, H!

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To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Battleground God -- Talking God Outside the Universe


> Well, then you come back to a definition of evidence.
>
> For me, evidence is what I have observed and studied about the universe,
> etc.
>
> For others, evidence is a personal experience where the person feels God
has
> directly touched their lives, possibly through a miracle.  I do not
discount
> that sort of faith as irrational. The evidence is more personal and less
> provable in any manner a scientist would accept, but it's still evidence
to
> the person who has made that leap of faith.
>
> I believe God reaches people who open their hearts to belief through
> whatever method might be most appropriate for that person.
>
> Of course, the less your rely on external evidence, the more likely you
are
> to make an irrational decision. There are people, I believe, who have some
> sort of faith without any sort of rational reason for such belief.  Faith,
> then, is not necessarily rational, it's just that it is not necessarily
> irrational.
>
> H.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Battleground God -- Talking God Outside the Universe
>
>
> > For this to be a contradiction, you would have to believe that faith
> without
> > proof is irrational.
>
> I believe faith without evidence IS irrational - its faith because its
based
> on something other than evidence.  Proof is like FACT - a rare occurance,
> IMO.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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