Ok, well, I'm not on welfare these days (thankfully). I did grow up spending part of my time on welfare. Government Cheese is awesome..unless you're allergic to cheese the way I was. Same goes for powdered milk. Still, I was greatful for the powdered potatoes and the rice. And things were great when a welfare to work program helped my mother land a job that she loved, though it ended up trashing her body and probably shortening her life. I'm still glad that I didn't have to get dinner out of a dumpster behind the fast-food joint more than a couple times. I knew people that had it far worse.
Yeah, there are people that abuse the system. I remember my mother giving a friend quite the dressing down when she asked us if we could loan her $20 to get food for her kids and my mother asked her if she'd gone by to get cheese and rice and such and she said "no" because she felt too proud to beg. Well, let me tell you that the welfare system is incredibly demeaning. It is not anything that anyone really wants to deal with. But yeah, when you got nothing, you gotta suck it up and do what you need to do. And you should be greatful, even when people with a lot more than you are sneering at you and talking down to you. So I agree that social services can be done better (they can also be done worse). And no matter what system you put in place, some people are going to find a way to abuse it (Hellllooooo Bailout!). But I think that there is a lot we can focus on in making America a better place that doesn't involve shitting all over poor people. Poverty is treated like a personal failure in the country, a choice, and I can tell you from experience that that isn't the case. There will be people that game the system, but this is a system that is set up to take care of the most vulnerable in our country and it is incredibly important that we whole heartedly give them our support and the benefit of the doubt. Judah On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff, > > That is my point. I am not oppsed to these programs as much as I am how > these programs are currently managed. Unfortunately, it would probably be > labeled a violation of someone's civil rights if we tried to radically alter > how they are managed. > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Which is why they then game the Soc. Sec. system by submitting false >> documentation that the child has a disability... If it's not one thing >> it's >> another. I mean, there's a cornucopia of free shit out there if you are >> patient enough to game the system... Unfortunately some people make a >> career out of it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:56 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: FW: McCain's Hero: More Socialist Than Obama! >> >> I spent 14 years as a paramedic is some of the worst areas of New Jersey. >> I >> have seen more than my fair share of welfare families. >> >> In New Jersey a few years back the 'I am going to have another kid so I get >> more welfare money' was so bad they passed a law that stated if you were on >> welfare and had another child, you would not get an increase in our >> benefits. >> >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM, wrote: >> >> > Out of curiosity, have you been on welfare? Cause I don't remember it >> > being anything like you are describing. >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:278441 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
