I spent 14 years as a paramedic is some of the worst areas of New Jersey. I have seen more than my fair share of welfare families.
In New Jersey a few years back the 'I am going to have another kid so I get more welfare money' was so bad they passed a law that stated if you were on welfare and had another child, you would not get an increase in our benefits. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Out of curiosity, have you been on welfare? Cause I don't remember it > being anything like you are describing. > > Judah > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I said, I have no issue with trying to help those who want to help > > themselves. Welfare, for example, was never meant to be a way of life, > it > > was meant to help someone get back on their feet after rough times. But > we > > have generations of families on welfare with no incentive/initiative to > get > > off. > > > > I am not saying its only the people's fault. On the contrary, I think > its > > mostly the system's fault. The system makes it a) too easy to stay on or > b) > > too hard to get off welfare. We should be traching these people skills > they > > can use to go get a job instead of just sitting around collecting a check > > and having babies to get more money. > > > > I am not sure if this has changed, but in New Jersey Medicaid used to > cover > > reversal of a vasectomy. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you need to be > on > > Medicaid, is it really a god idea to make it so you can have kids? I > don't > > think so. > > > > I would also say that this same attitude goes for the bailout bill. I > > think any company *cough* AIG *cough* who continues to over spend on > stupid > > shit should have the money taken back...with interest. I am not saying I > am > > totally against the bailout, but I think there should have been 'strings' > > attached as someone (i think sam) said. > > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > Scott wrote: > >> > My biggest problem with the programs designed to help those in need > are: > >> > 1. They don't seem to really help. > >> > 2. They are abused by people who do not need the services, but are > just > >> too > >> > damned lazy. > >> > > >> > >> Couldn't agree more! So do you and I agree in principle that: > >> > >> 1.) Wealth redistribution is an investment, but > >> > >> 2.) It's fraught with management problems such as timely course > >> corrections based on metics measured against goals. > >> > >> Thus, > >> > >> 3.) Some level of wealth redistribution is appropriate but the > >> programs should be considered as fiscal policy, should be founded on > >> sound management, and should include transparent measures. > >> > >> Would you agree? > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:278433 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
