Out of curiosity, have you been on welfare? Cause I don't remember it being anything like you are describing.
Judah On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I said, I have no issue with trying to help those who want to help > themselves. Welfare, for example, was never meant to be a way of life, it > was meant to help someone get back on their feet after rough times. But we > have generations of families on welfare with no incentive/initiative to get > off. > > I am not saying its only the people's fault. On the contrary, I think its > mostly the system's fault. The system makes it a) too easy to stay on or b) > too hard to get off welfare. We should be traching these people skills they > can use to go get a job instead of just sitting around collecting a check > and having babies to get more money. > > I am not sure if this has changed, but in New Jersey Medicaid used to cover > reversal of a vasectomy. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you need to be on > Medicaid, is it really a god idea to make it so you can have kids? I don't > think so. > > I would also say that this same attitude goes for the bailout bill. I > think any company *cough* AIG *cough* who continues to over spend on stupid > shit should have the money taken back...with interest. I am not saying I am > totally against the bailout, but I think there should have been 'strings' > attached as someone (i think sam) said. > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Scott wrote: >> > My biggest problem with the programs designed to help those in need are: >> > 1. They don't seem to really help. >> > 2. They are abused by people who do not need the services, but are just >> too >> > damned lazy. >> > >> >> Couldn't agree more! So do you and I agree in principle that: >> >> 1.) Wealth redistribution is an investment, but >> >> 2.) It's fraught with management problems such as timely course >> corrections based on metics measured against goals. >> >> Thus, >> >> 3.) Some level of wealth redistribution is appropriate but the >> programs should be considered as fiscal policy, should be founded on >> sound management, and should include transparent measures. >> >> Would you agree? >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:278420 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
