On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> He said "Its time to start thinning the herd."

That was said as a joke.  I guess Club Liberal took away your sesne of humor
when you joined.

>
>
> by forcing these people to pay for life saving treatment - ie oxygen for
> instance, when they cannot pay for it, is forcing them to die, whether you
> do it yourself by personally strangling them with your bare hands or by
> cutting off funding, so they strangle through lack of oxygen. The difference
> is only a matter of slight degrees. The same difference exists if you press
> a button that shoots a bullet into the head of someone, or directly pull the
> trigger yourself. You are still morally culpable.

There is a difference, even if you cant see it through your Club Liberal
Super-Spec Glasses. So, you equate forcing someone to take financial
responsibility for willingly engaging in dangerous behavior as someone else
trying to kill them?  Seems to me the person engaging in the wreckless
behavior is trying to kill themselves.  Honestly, I think that someone who
knowingly and wilingly inhales know carcinognes on a regular basis has a
death wish.
Your button/bullet analogy is a poor one.  It in no way matches, even
remotely, any of the circumstances which we are trying to discuss. The
biggest difference is that the weapon killing these people is cigarettes,
and it is a weapon they yeild themselves. This is no differnt to me than if
they pull the trigger or push the button themselves.

>
> It was not me using such phrases as douchebag or asshole as the only
> response to another's arguments. And that is typical of him. I suggest
> instead of using that phrasing, coming up with a legitimate argument, not
> argument by extreme, or by reference to authority, or a red herring type of
> arguments. But genuine counterpoints. So far he has not done that, so what
> else can I conclude?
>
> I'll give you that one.  I admit you got under my skin.  But, then again, I
am not sure any reasonable person would take kindly with being compared to a
Nazi.
I notice that you did not reply to the point Charlie made about abortion.
 Following Larry's Rules of Logic, if someone is pro-choice, then they are
baby killers. Did I get that right?

-- 
Scott Stroz
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If I laugh after I insult you, it doesn't mean I don't mean it.


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