On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Except that's for one attempt only. And in most of these studies (many of
> which I know - I did some research in the area) - they had a very stringent
> definition of success rate. After 2 or 3 attempts at quitting smoking, the
> majority of people have quit smoking. Moreover most of this research used
> fairly strict criteria for selecting participants. So that's where the 10%
> success rate comes from. Outside of these lab conditions the success rate is
> usually higher.

I can accept that, it took me more than one atempt to quit smoking.

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> YOu really have a thing for letting poor people die.


Not true at all, and you are a fucking asshole for making such an
accusation.  I do, however, have a thing for protecting people from their
own stupidity. Its time to start thinning the herd.

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> Its understandable, smoking addiction is potentially harder to kick than
> stopping a heroin addiction. Of course its nuts, but that's what addiction
> does to you. Every person who succeeds in quitting is one less in that
> scenario. Every non smoker, (ie those who've quit, and those who never
> started) are far less likely to be in that situation.

Then this goes back to the first item above.   You can only kick an
addiction if you truly want to. We can't continue to fund programs that
might work.

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