OK, just so I understand for future reference. Expressing opinion == trolling. I will be sure to remember that, Thanx.
I still don't understand the equation of 'killing human by negligence < killing dog on purpose'. On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Judah McAuley<[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I did not mean to imply you had called him a 'punk' but others on this >> list and others I know have. > > I called him a punk because he tortured animals in a wanton and cruel > and repetitive fashion for amusement and "sport". I'll stand by that > statement. Hopefully he can progress beyond that. That would be > awesome. > >> I hope I am right about Vick, too. He has been given a second chance, >> to not only play football, but to make a difference in other people's >> lives. With that in mind, if he fucks up again, I'll be the first to >> a) admit I was wring and 2) be screaming for his head. > > You were trolling Scott. You set up a straw man and begged someone to > go in swinging, so I did. You want to make the point that Kennedy was > a deeply flawed man who probably contributed to someones death? I said > that on here before you posted anything. You want to say that Vick is > being tried in the public court and being held to a standard that > others might not be because he is young, black and a professional > athlete? Sure thing. I can get behind that. > > You want to compare the two? Not so much. Kennedy fucked up by all > accounts, his included. You may not like his "admissions" regarding > the incident but I've felt it there in the background for the entire > time I've known of him and I think his words and actions show remorse > even if they aren't up to your standards. And I do understand the > standards, btw. > > To me, the big difference is that Kennedy fucked up in an accident, a > stupid one that I could see myself involved in when I was younger. I > like to think that I would have had more courage and done things > differently (though there is no absolute account of the night anyway). > But I haven't been in that situation and can't say for certain what I > would do. > > Vick, on the other hand, was engaged in something that was ongoing, > that was cruel, that existed over a period of time for him to think > about the matter, to afford him ample opportunity to change his mind, > to change his ways. It wasn't a sudden accident and freak out in the > matter of minutes and hours. It was days, weeks, months, years. That > is a big big difference. > > But I still don't have any problem with him getting a job in the NFL. > He did his time and I want to see rehabilitation of people who have > gone to prison. But you were trolling and trying to compare someone > who fucked up in an accident in his youth and then devoted the rest of > his life to public service to someone that committed cruel acts over a > long period of time and has thus far shown no great understanding of > the depravity of his acts let alone a distinguished service to > humanity in any way shape or form. > > I hope Michael Vick becomes a paragon of humanity, uses his money, > power and fame to advance a plethora of worthwhile causes and leads an > exemplary life. I'm happy to give him that second chance. But to use > him as a foil for someone who actually *did* those positive things > while dragging the chains of a long ago accident? That belittles the > life of Ted Kennedy and cheapens your point immensely. > > Judah > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:303160 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
