fair enough. My (personal) answer is "I don't know." However, I give great
weight to the fact that he and McCain were working together to get things
done when I say there is a real loss. I'd say the same about McCain if he
died tomorrow. I thought he would have been a disastrous president but he is
doing a lot of good in the Senate.

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> No, but we should get the facts correct when possible.
>
> And yes, she was a volunteer for Bobby's campaign.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident
>
> I guess my feelings are that he never "manned up" to Chappaquiddick, so
> never, regardless of his other good works, climbed out of that dark and
> cowardly hole he made for himself. Harsh, but that's my feeling.
>
> Add to that the Smith rape and his participation (as wingman, host, witness
> and character witness), which makes me wonder how much he had actually
> changed in 20 years.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > perhaps. Not sure and doesn't change my point does it?
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Wasn't it a volunteer from his brother's campaign? (not his volunteer)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mind, I don't really want to engage on Kenedy's behalf here. Dead is
> > dead
> > > > if
> > > > you're the victim, as you point out. However, I think we agree that
> he
> > > did
> > > > not get up that morning and say hey I think I will drown one of my
> > > > volunteers today, right? So however cowardly or criminal his behavior
> > may
> > > > have been, it was not deliberate, right? It was a huge and shameful
> > > fuckup.
> > > > But it was a fuckup.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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