Not going along with the thread hijack, no matter how tempting... On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Or the Oval Office. > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I had always thought if you talked to god and he answered directly you >> were a candidate for the rubber room. >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Gnosticism is fundamentally at odds with organized religion. If you >>> get to talk to God directly and have God answer back all the time then >>> you don't really need a preacher. So if you want to solidify a church, >>> tossing the gnostic gospels is a good place to start. >>> >>> Judah >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> MoJo wrote: >>>>> As for atheism being a religion...not really. >>>> >>>> I agree, especially the part about Gnosticism which is Thomas' (of >>>> doubting Thomas) gig. >>>> >>>> In my opinion the biblical canonizers did today's world a complete >>>> disservice by incorporating John's odd misaligned gospels instead of >>>> Thomas'. John was of the fire and brimstone variety while Thomas was >>>> of the seek-truth variety. By going with John the canonizers screwed >>>> the planet for the last 1000 years. >>>> >>>> Thus the difference between religion and spirtualism. >>>> >>>> Religious Christians would call my opinion heresy, but non-religious >>>> Christians would agree or at least engage in a super-fun debate. >>>> >>>> But you needn't be religious nor spiritual to be guilty and/or know >>>> the difference between right and wrong. >>>> >>>> After all, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are >>>> created equal. >>>> >>>> Sounds like Ben was on Thomas' side rather than John's. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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