It goes back to Israel's consistent use of inappropriate force and using the
wrong people to execute their plans.  

Think about what happened here last time we used troops to quell a riot back
in the 60's at Kent State...  That's a classic example of using the wrong
forces to execute a plan.  It's like using a sledge hammer to drive in a
screw...yeah you will get the crew in, but you will probably cause a lot of
damage to wood around it.  

When you expect the people on a ship, who are most likely unarmed (despite
what they claimed about them having weapons, do you really believe they
didn't know that they were really unarmed?), you go in with riot gear and
weaponry appropriate for a riot, not weaponry and troops appropriate for
combat.  When dealing with civilians, the plan shouldn't be to shoot to
kill, especially with all the non-lethal technology we have (much of which
is actually made in Israel, ironically enough).  The plan should be to go in
and quell any potential violence, first, by not storming the castle wall and
inciting violence, second...if there is violence, you use non-lethal means
to subdue the violent ones...and have folks with real weapons on standby if
it turns out that they have weapons...then go to town as it would then be an
appropriate response.

Anything less than this only furthers the Islamic jihadist's causes and
creates more recruits rather.  You don't force freedom fighters or
terrorists into submission.  The only thing that can be done to defeat them
is to sap the energy out of their cause and take the wind out of their
sails.  You can't kill them all because as you kill one, especially if you
go about it like Israel does, another will pop up in his place.  Israel
needs to look to Northern Ireland as a model.  Once the British realized the
slash and burn method of anti-terrorism was making matters worse, they
actually got traction in the peace process.  Things got better and it took
the energy out of the IRA's mission and cause.  When was the last IRA attack
you have heard of?  When was the last Hamas attack?

Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: G Money [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:39 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: 5 of the 9 bodies returned to turkey were all headshots.


On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Head shots indicate:
>
> 1) The shot was made at close range
> 2) In a scuffle and a disorganised mob soldiers do not have time to make
> head shots.
> 3) The Soldiers were shooting to kill.
>

When you shoot, you shoot to kill.

Why are you surprised that some of the best trained and battle hardened
military commandos in the history of the world...would be accurate shots?
I'm more surprised that they missed 4 heads :)

-- 
The suburbs have no charms to soothe
The restless dream of youth




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