If it was being done right, or decently, or even just good enough to eke
by, there wouldn't be a national push. (that had any traction)

Unfortunately, there are a LOT of places in this country where dumb and
uneducated is DESIRED.

But fortunately, as a nation, we have collectively decided that educated to
a minimum standard is in the nation's economic, political and security best
interest.




On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:21 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Do you really think a nation wide cookie cutter approach to education is
> the best idea in a country as large and diverse as ours?
>
> Isn't this the very reason we have states and counties?  Tailored localized
> responses?
> On May 20, 2014 1:16 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > So run a few large scale studies using a Quasi-Experimental approach.
> > Take a set of schools that are statistically equivalent on the
> > dependent measures. Then randomly assign them to either the current
> > approaches or the CCC. Then see what happens over a 5 or 10 year
> > period. And do that in 4 or 5 different states. That would give a
> > fairly good idea on what works best.
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > RIght. Research suggests this may work better. SO let's try it.
> > >
> > > Now research doesn't always translate into the real world, but there's
> > only
> > > one way to find out. IF the upside is better educated kids, and the
> > > downside is going back to the way it was.....there's no reason NOT to
> > try.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> [email protected]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> What I don't understand is that people on both sides seem to be
> > >> ignoring what the research says when it comes to the Common Core
> > >> Curriculum. Why not go with what works the best?
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > my kiddos have all gone through Montessori education and were taught
> > math
> > >> > in a very similar manner to common core.  My oldest ended up
> skipping
> > >> > Algebra 1 once she got into middle school and has maintained a 96
> > average
> > >> > all year.
> > >> >
> > >> > If you've seen the "New Math" photo that's been endlessly
> circulated,
> > >> > people seem to understand it better once I relate it to counting
> back
> > >> > changed to someone.  It's really a very natural way of doing math.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, GMoney <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > It sounds like he's saying commie core promotes gay lifestyles a
> > lot,
> > >> as
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> > getting the little kids to understand and be tolerant,
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Understanding and tolerance?!?!?!?!?!?!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> HOLY FUCK!!!!!!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Take it away, Judge McShane:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Let us look less to the sky to see what might fall; rather, let us
> > >> look to
> > >> >> each other...and rise."
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On the hand, the real issue is how horrible is it that the federal
> > >> >> > government is destroying our education system and many people are
> > >> unaware
> > >> >> > or are happy about it.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jury is still out on this common core junk. I've read experts who
> > swear
> > >> by
> > >> >> it, backed by research, and others who are highly critical of it.
> > People
> > >> >> are so resistant to change. If it's for the better, then by FSM
> > let's do
> > >> >> it. We won't really know until we try. I also have little sympathy
> > for
> > >> >> parents who are pissed because they can't help their kids with
> their
> > 4th
> > >> >> grade home work. Geeesh, set down your fucking cell phone, take a
> few
> > >> >> minutes and learn something new for a change.....it ain't gonna
> kill
> > >> you.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At least test drive it. See what this new approach is TRYING to do,
> > >> before
> > >> >> making up your mind.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Or alternatively, decide that it makes you gay and reject it
> > outright. I
> > >> >> guess that's the easiest approach.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Disclaimer: My kids haven't quite reached elementary school yet,
> so i
> > >> >> haven't actually been exposed to it. When I actually learn about it
> > and
> > >> try
> > >> >> it out, I may become a critic...but I intend to at least try it
> > first.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If anyone on here has practical experience with it and can give
> > concrete
> > >> >> examples of what they think is wrong with it....or perhaps how it's
> > >> turning
> > >> >> them gay....I'd love to hear it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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