Was there a referendum I missed and a constitutional amendment to provide
for it?
On May 20, 2014 1:33 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> If it was being done right, or decently, or even just good enough to eke
> by, there wouldn't be a national push. (that had any traction)
>
> Unfortunately, there are a LOT of places in this country where dumb and
> uneducated is DESIRED.
>
> But fortunately, as a nation, we have collectively decided that educated to
> a minimum standard is in the nation's economic, political and security best
> interest.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:21 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Do you really think a nation wide cookie cutter approach to education is
> > the best idea in a country as large and diverse as ours?
> >
> > Isn't this the very reason we have states and counties?  Tailored
> localized
> > responses?
> > On May 20, 2014 1:16 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > So run a few large scale studies using a Quasi-Experimental approach.
> > > Take a set of schools that are statistically equivalent on the
> > > dependent measures. Then randomly assign them to either the current
> > > approaches or the CCC. Then see what happens over a 5 or 10 year
> > > period. And do that in 4 or 5 different states. That would give a
> > > fairly good idea on what works best.
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > RIght. Research suggests this may work better. SO let's try it.
> > > >
> > > > Now research doesn't always translate into the real world, but
> there's
> > > only
> > > > one way to find out. IF the upside is better educated kids, and the
> > > > downside is going back to the way it was.....there's no reason NOT to
> > > try.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> > [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> What I don't understand is that people on both sides seem to be
> > > >> ignoring what the research says when it comes to the Common Core
> > > >> Curriculum. Why not go with what works the best?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > my kiddos have all gone through Montessori education and were
> taught
> > > math
> > > >> > in a very similar manner to common core.  My oldest ended up
> > skipping
> > > >> > Algebra 1 once she got into middle school and has maintained a 96
> > > average
> > > >> > all year.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If you've seen the "New Math" photo that's been endlessly
> > circulated,
> > > >> > people seem to understand it better once I relate it to counting
> > back
> > > >> > changed to someone.  It's really a very natural way of doing math.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, GMoney <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Sam <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > It sounds like he's saying commie core promotes gay lifestyles
> a
> > > lot,
> > > >> as
> > > >> >> in
> > > >> >> > getting the little kids to understand and be tolerant,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Understanding and tolerance?!?!?!?!?!?!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> HOLY FUCK!!!!!!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Take it away, Judge McShane:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "Let us look less to the sky to see what might fall; rather, let
> us
> > > >> look to
> > > >> >> each other...and rise."
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On the hand, the real issue is how horrible is it that the
> federal
> > > >> >> > government is destroying our education system and many people
> are
> > > >> unaware
> > > >> >> > or are happy about it.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Jury is still out on this common core junk. I've read experts who
> > > swear
> > > >> by
> > > >> >> it, backed by research, and others who are highly critical of it.
> > > People
> > > >> >> are so resistant to change. If it's for the better, then by FSM
> > > let's do
> > > >> >> it. We won't really know until we try. I also have little
> sympathy
> > > for
> > > >> >> parents who are pissed because they can't help their kids with
> > their
> > > 4th
> > > >> >> grade home work. Geeesh, set down your fucking cell phone, take a
> > few
> > > >> >> minutes and learn something new for a change.....it ain't gonna
> > kill
> > > >> you.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> At least test drive it. See what this new approach is TRYING to
> do,
> > > >> before
> > > >> >> making up your mind.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Or alternatively, decide that it makes you gay and reject it
> > > outright. I
> > > >> >> guess that's the easiest approach.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Disclaimer: My kids haven't quite reached elementary school yet,
> > so i
> > > >> >> haven't actually been exposed to it. When I actually learn about
> it
> > > and
> > > >> try
> > > >> >> it out, I may become a critic...but I intend to at least try it
> > > first.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> If anyone on here has practical experience with it and can give
> > > concrete
> > > >> >> examples of what they think is wrong with it....or perhaps how
> it's
> > > >> turning
> > > >> >> them gay....I'd love to hear it.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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