Common Core is adopted voluntarily by states (as evidenced by the fact that not all states have adopted it). There are benefits that come with adopting it (like not having to write your own curriculum and being able to bulk purchase materials designed to a multi-state curriculum) and downsides (not having your own curriculum and having to buy the same thing everyone else is).
As for social studies and history, I think that there are going to be people that strongly disagree with the interpretations adopted in any curriculum. I don't think it really matters whether it is national or state-level, controversies are controversial. Judah On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:46 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > Was there a referendum I missed and a constitutional amendment to provide > for it? > On May 20, 2014 1:33 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If it was being done right, or decently, or even just good enough to eke > > by, there wouldn't be a national push. (that had any traction) > > > > Unfortunately, there are a LOT of places in this country where dumb and > > uneducated is DESIRED. > > > > But fortunately, as a nation, we have collectively decided that educated > to > > a minimum standard is in the nation's economic, political and security > best > > interest. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:21 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Do you really think a nation wide cookie cutter approach to education > is > > > the best idea in a country as large and diverse as ours? > > > > > > Isn't this the very reason we have states and counties? Tailored > > localized > > > responses? > > > On May 20, 2014 1:16 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So run a few large scale studies using a Quasi-Experimental approach. > > > > Take a set of schools that are statistically equivalent on the > > > > dependent measures. Then randomly assign them to either the current > > > > approaches or the CCC. Then see what happens over a 5 or 10 year > > > > period. And do that in 4 or 5 different states. That would give a > > > > fairly good idea on what works best. > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > RIght. Research suggests this may work better. SO let's try it. > > > > > > > > > > Now research doesn't always translate into the real world, but > > there's > > > > only > > > > > one way to find out. IF the upside is better educated kids, and the > > > > > downside is going back to the way it was.....there's no reason NOT > to > > > > try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Larry C. Lyons < > > > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> What I don't understand is that people on both sides seem to be > > > > >> ignoring what the research says when it comes to the Common Core > > > > >> Curriculum. Why not go with what works the best? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > my kiddos have all gone through Montessori education and were > > taught > > > > math > > > > >> > in a very similar manner to common core. My oldest ended up > > > skipping > > > > >> > Algebra 1 once she got into middle school and has maintained a > 96 > > > > average > > > > >> > all year. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > If you've seen the "New Math" photo that's been endlessly > > > circulated, > > > > >> > people seem to understand it better once I relate it to counting > > > back > > > > >> > changed to someone. It's really a very natural way of doing > math. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Sam <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > It sounds like he's saying commie core promotes gay > lifestyles > > a > > > > lot, > > > > >> as > > > > >> >> in > > > > >> >> > getting the little kids to understand and be tolerant, > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Understanding and tolerance?!?!?!?!?!?! > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> HOLY FUCK!!!!!! > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Take it away, Judge McShane: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> "Let us look less to the sky to see what might fall; rather, > let > > us > > > > >> look to > > > > >> >> each other...and rise." > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> On the hand, the real issue is how horrible is it that the > > federal > > > > >> >> > government is destroying our education system and many people > > are > > > > >> unaware > > > > >> >> > or are happy about it. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Jury is still out on this common core junk. I've read experts > who > > > > swear > > > > >> by > > > > >> >> it, backed by research, and others who are highly critical of > it. > > > > People > > > > >> >> are so resistant to change. If it's for the better, then by FSM > > > > let's do > > > > >> >> it. We won't really know until we try. I also have little > > sympathy > > > > for > > > > >> >> parents who are pissed because they can't help their kids with > > > their > > > > 4th > > > > >> >> grade home work. Geeesh, set down your fucking cell phone, > take a > > > few > > > > >> >> minutes and learn something new for a change.....it ain't gonna > > > kill > > > > >> you. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> At least test drive it. See what this new approach is TRYING to > > do, > > > > >> before > > > > >> >> making up your mind. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Or alternatively, decide that it makes you gay and reject it > > > > outright. I > > > > >> >> guess that's the easiest approach. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Disclaimer: My kids haven't quite reached elementary school > yet, > > > so i > > > > >> >> haven't actually been exposed to it. When I actually learn > about > > it > > > > and > > > > >> try > > > > >> >> it out, I may become a critic...but I intend to at least try it > > > > first. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> If anyone on here has practical experience with it and can give > > > > concrete > > > > >> >> examples of what they think is wrong with it....or perhaps how > > it's > > > > >> turning > > > > >> >> them gay....I'd love to hear it. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:370261 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
