Beth,

I agree with you. I find it interesting the resounding silence of the
"Stolen Election" camp when asked to discuss the facts.  This camp seems
much more comfortable name calling then truly discussing the issues.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:51 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME


> Would one of you from the "GW is a court appointed president" team please
> discuss all of the recounts that have been performed?  How many would have
> swayed the election if the Supreme Court hadn't interfered.  Again, I
don't
> remember seeing a single one. So if you can't show a recount that supports
> your view and there are recounts that support Bush won with and without
the
> Supremes, are you just avoiding reality?


Its not a matter of saying that Bush didnt' win the electoral vote, he
clearly did - its a matter of whether the electoral college is relevant and
fair.  At the time of the creation of the electoral college it was created
because the "common man" supposedly didn't have the smarts to vote for
himself so he voted for someone smarter than him to do it.   I personally
find that notion offensive & outdated  and would prefer to see the president
elected solely on the basis of the public vote.

Does anyone know if there were any other times a president was elected
without winning the popular vote?



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