Thats the beautiful thing about it, you have to find out for yourself if
just counseling
will work or if just meds work or if you have to do both.

Much less if you have to do meds which ones work and dont mess your life up
too much.

I used to take some prozac years ago from my mom just to see how it made me
feel sinc ei realized i was probably going to be like her. And it was fine
could do all my MANLY things if you get my drift. So then few years later i
goto the doc and ask for it and she says OH it may cause sexual sideaffects
and then BOOM cant do manly duties. Lol the brain is a funny thing indeed!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)


> Um Ben,
>
> you may be a bit incorrect there. The research does show that cognitive
> therapy for depression can be as effective as medication. When the two are
> used in conjunction the effectiveness of both approaches can be
> substantially increased. In my own research (see
> http://www.lyonsmorris.com/maret/RETstudy1.htm) we found that REBT, a form
> of cognitive behavioral therapy, was very effective.
>
> But the approach you suggest is a good one.
>
> larry
>
> At 12:26 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >Keep in mind that, if things like cognitive therapies don't work by
> >themselves, there's nothing wrong with antidepressants.
> >
> >The problem I see with how they are used today is that they are like
modern
> >snake oil -- supposedly a panacea (how do you spell that?).  That isn't
how
> >they should be used.  I take antidepressants in order to give me enough
> >balance for things like cognitive therapy, excersize, light therapy, and
> >just doing things that please me to control my depression.
> >
> >And sometimes it's necessary to have that help.  Yesterday, for example,
I
> >got my psychiatrist to bump my dosage for a couple of months because I
seem
> >to have seasonal affective disorder and weeks on end of one sunny day in
> >seven was destroying me.  But I don't expect that to magically make it go
> >away -- just make it bearable enough that I have the energy and
motivation
> >to do the things I need to do to make it go away.
> >
> >People talk about it being a crutch, but isn't that what you need when
> >you've got a broken leg?
> >
> >Did that all make sense?
> >
> >I'm certainly not advocating 'jumping on the meds bandwagon' but I do
hope
> >you'll keep an open mind to it.
> >
> >
> >--  Ben Doom
> >     Programmer & General Lackey
> >     Moonbow Software, Inc
> >
> >: -----Original Message-----
> >: From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:02 PM
> >: To: CF-Community
> >: Subject: RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
> >:
> >:
> >: Ug. This is sad...
> >:
> >: My oldest has been battling some depression lately (he is 16) and it
> >: scares me. But we are working together to try different things before
we
> >: just jump on the meds bandwagon.
> >:
> >: ~~
> >: Stephenie
> >:
> >:
> >:
> >:
> >:
> >: -----Original Message-----
> >: From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:20 AM
> >: To: CF-Community
> >: Subject: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
> >:
> >:
> >: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html
> >:
> >: How dumb to people have to be???
> >:
> >: Or is it all part of Natural Selection?
> >:
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