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/me shrugs

Both drugs that worked on me had sexual side effects.  I figure if I have to
choose between having trouble but feeling OK most of the time and feeling so
depressed I have even more trouble from things like serious self-image
issues, the choice is pretty easy.


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--  Ben Doom
    Programmer & General Lackey
    Moonbow Software, Inc

: -----Original Message-----
: From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:50 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
:
:
: Thats the beautiful thing about it, you have to find out for yourself if
: just counseling
: will work or if just meds work or if you have to do both.
:
: Much less if you have to do meds which ones work and dont mess
: your life up
: too much.
:
: I used to take some prozac years ago from my mom just to see how
: it made me
: feel sinc ei realized i was probably going to be like her. And it was fine
: could do all my MANLY things if you get my drift. So then few
: years later i
: goto the doc and ask for it and she says OH it may cause sexual
: sideaffects
: and then BOOM cant do manly duties. Lol the brain is a funny thing indeed!
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:30 PM
: Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
:
:
: > Um Ben,
: >
: > you may be a bit incorrect there. The research does show that cognitive
: > therapy for depression can be as effective as medication. When
: the two are
: > used in conjunction the effectiveness of both approaches can be
: > substantially increased. In my own research (see
: > http://www.lyonsmorris.com/maret/RETstudy1.htm) we found that
: REBT, a form
: > of cognitive behavioral therapy, was very effective.
: >
: > But the approach you suggest is a good one.
: >
: > larry
: >
: > At 12:26 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
: > >Keep in mind that, if things like cognitive therapies don't work by
: > >themselves, there's nothing wrong with antidepressants.
: > >
: > >The problem I see with how they are used today is that they are like
: modern
: > >snake oil -- supposedly a panacea (how do you spell that?).  That isn't
: how
: > >they should be used.  I take antidepressants in order to give me enough
: > >balance for things like cognitive therapy, excersize, light
: therapy, and
: > >just doing things that please me to control my depression.
: > >
: > >And sometimes it's necessary to have that help.  Yesterday,
: for example,
: I
: > >got my psychiatrist to bump my dosage for a couple of months because I
: seem
: > >to have seasonal affective disorder and weeks on end of one
: sunny day in
: > >seven was destroying me.  But I don't expect that to magically
: make it go
: > >away -- just make it bearable enough that I have the energy and
: motivation
: > >to do the things I need to do to make it go away.
: > >
: > >People talk about it being a crutch, but isn't that what you need when
: > >you've got a broken leg?
: > >
: > >Did that all make sense?
: > >
: > >I'm certainly not advocating 'jumping on the meds bandwagon' but I do
: hope
: > >you'll keep an open mind to it.
: > >
: > >
: > >--  Ben Doom
: > >     Programmer & General Lackey
: > >     Moonbow Software, Inc
: > >
: > >: -----Original Message-----
: > >: From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:02 PM
: > >: To: CF-Community
: > >: Subject: RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: > >:
: > >:
: > >: Ug. This is sad...
: > >:
: > >: My oldest has been battling some depression lately (he is 16) and it
: > >: scares me. But we are working together to try different things before
: we
: > >: just jump on the meds bandwagon.
: > >:
: > >: ~~
: > >: Stephenie
: > >:
: > >:
: > >:
: > >:
: > >:
: > >: -----Original Message-----
: > >: From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:20 AM
: > >: To: CF-Community
: > >: Subject: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: > >:
: > >:
: > >: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html
: > >:
: > >: How dumb to people have to be???
: > >:
: > >: Or is it all part of Natural Selection?
: > >:
: > >: Philip Arnold
: > >: Technical Director
: > >: Certified ColdFusion Developer
: > >: ASP Multimedia Limited
: > >: Switchboard: +44 (0)20 8680 8099
: > >: Fax: +44 (0)20 8686 7911
: > >:
: > >: www.aspmedia.co.uk
: > >: www.aspevents.net
: > >:
: > >: An ISO9001 registered company.
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