Huh.  Wierd.  Those are the 2 that worked for me.  I'm on effexor now.

Celexa didn't do a damn thing for me.  Worst month in my life, coming off
Zoloft to try something else.


--  Ben Doom
    Programmer & General Lackey
    Moonbow Software, Inc

: -----Original Message-----
: From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:11 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
:
:
: hehe no worries, told her never to tell me about the sexual
: sideaffects and
: just started
: taking effexor nice little pill, i used to like Zoloft but it was annoying
:
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:57 PM
: Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
:
:
: > <cf_toomuchinformation>
: >
: > /me shrugs
: >
: > Both drugs that worked on me had sexual side effects.  I figure
: if I have
: to
: > choose between having trouble but feeling OK most of the time
: and feeling
: so
: > depressed I have even more trouble from things like serious self-image
: > issues, the choice is pretty easy.
: >
: >
: > </cf_toomuchingormation>
: >
: > --  Ben Doom
: >     Programmer & General Lackey
: >     Moonbow Software, Inc
: >
: > : -----Original Message-----
: > : From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > : Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:50 PM
: > : To: CF-Community
: > : Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
: > :
: > :
: > : Thats the beautiful thing about it, you have to find out for
: yourself if
: > : just counseling
: > : will work or if just meds work or if you have to do both.
: > :
: > : Much less if you have to do meds which ones work and dont mess
: > : your life up
: > : too much.
: > :
: > : I used to take some prozac years ago from my mom just to see how
: > : it made me
: > : feel sinc ei realized i was probably going to be like her. And it was
: fine
: > : could do all my MANLY things if you get my drift. So then few
: > : years later i
: > : goto the doc and ask for it and she says OH it may cause sexual
: > : sideaffects
: > : and then BOOM cant do manly duties. Lol the brain is a funny thing
: indeed!
: > :
: > :
: > : ----- Original Message -----
: > : From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > : To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > : Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:30 PM
: > : Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
: > :
: > :
: > : > Um Ben,
: > : >
: > : > you may be a bit incorrect there. The research does show that
: cognitive
: > : > therapy for depression can be as effective as medication. When
: > : the two are
: > : > used in conjunction the effectiveness of both approaches can be
: > : > substantially increased. In my own research (see
: > : > http://www.lyonsmorris.com/maret/RETstudy1.htm) we found that
: > : REBT, a form
: > : > of cognitive behavioral therapy, was very effective.
: > : >
: > : > But the approach you suggest is a good one.
: > : >
: > : > larry
: > : >
: > : > At 12:26 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
: > : > >Keep in mind that, if things like cognitive therapies don't work by
: > : > >themselves, there's nothing wrong with antidepressants.
: > : > >
: > : > >The problem I see with how they are used today is that
: they are like
: > : modern
: > : > >snake oil -- supposedly a panacea (how do you spell that?).  That
: isn't
: > : how
: > : > >they should be used.  I take antidepressants in order to give me
: enough
: > : > >balance for things like cognitive therapy, excersize, light
: > : therapy, and
: > : > >just doing things that please me to control my depression.
: > : > >
: > : > >And sometimes it's necessary to have that help.  Yesterday,
: > : for example,
: > : I
: > : > >got my psychiatrist to bump my dosage for a couple of
: months because
: I
: > : seem
: > : > >to have seasonal affective disorder and weeks on end of one
: > : sunny day in
: > : > >seven was destroying me.  But I don't expect that to magically
: > : make it go
: > : > >away -- just make it bearable enough that I have the energy and
: > : motivation
: > : > >to do the things I need to do to make it go away.
: > : > >
: > : > >People talk about it being a crutch, but isn't that what you need
: when
: > : > >you've got a broken leg?
: > : > >
: > : > >Did that all make sense?
: > : > >
: > : > >I'm certainly not advocating 'jumping on the meds
: bandwagon' but I do
: > : hope
: > : > >you'll keep an open mind to it.
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > >--  Ben Doom
: > : > >     Programmer & General Lackey
: > : > >     Moonbow Software, Inc
: > : > >
: > : > >: -----Original Message-----
: > : > >: From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > : > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:02 PM
: > : > >: To: CF-Community
: > : > >: Subject: RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: > : > >:
: > : > >:
: > : > >: Ug. This is sad...
: > : > >:
: > : > >: My oldest has been battling some depression lately (he is 16) and
: it
: > : > >: scares me. But we are working together to try different things
: before
: > : we
: > : > >: just jump on the meds bandwagon.
: > : > >:
: > : > >: ~~
: > : > >: Stephenie
: > : > >:
: > : > >:
: > : > >:
: > : > >:
: > : > >:
: > : > >: -----Original Message-----
: > : > >: From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > : > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:20 AM
: > : > >: To: CF-Community
: > : > >: Subject: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: > : > >:
: > : > >:
: > : > >: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html
: > : > >:
: > : > >: How dumb to people have to be???
: > : > >:
: > : > >: Or is it all part of Natural Selection?
: > : > >:
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