hehe no worries, told her never to tell me about the sexual sideaffects and
just started
taking effexor nice little pill, i used to like Zoloft but it was annoying



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)


> <cf_toomuchinformation>
>
> /me shrugs
>
> Both drugs that worked on me had sexual side effects.  I figure if I have
to
> choose between having trouble but feeling OK most of the time and feeling
so
> depressed I have even more trouble from things like serious self-image
> issues, the choice is pretty easy.
>
>
> </cf_toomuchingormation>
>
> --  Ben Doom
>     Programmer & General Lackey
>     Moonbow Software, Inc
>
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> : Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:50 PM
> : To: CF-Community
> : Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
> :
> :
> : Thats the beautiful thing about it, you have to find out for yourself if
> : just counseling
> : will work or if just meds work or if you have to do both.
> :
> : Much less if you have to do meds which ones work and dont mess
> : your life up
> : too much.
> :
> : I used to take some prozac years ago from my mom just to see how
> : it made me
> : feel sinc ei realized i was probably going to be like her. And it was
fine
> : could do all my MANLY things if you get my drift. So then few
> : years later i
> : goto the doc and ask for it and she says OH it may cause sexual
> : sideaffects
> : and then BOOM cant do manly duties. Lol the brain is a funny thing
indeed!
> :
> :
> : ----- Original Message -----
> : From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:30 PM
> : Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
> :
> :
> : > Um Ben,
> : >
> : > you may be a bit incorrect there. The research does show that
cognitive
> : > therapy for depression can be as effective as medication. When
> : the two are
> : > used in conjunction the effectiveness of both approaches can be
> : > substantially increased. In my own research (see
> : > http://www.lyonsmorris.com/maret/RETstudy1.htm) we found that
> : REBT, a form
> : > of cognitive behavioral therapy, was very effective.
> : >
> : > But the approach you suggest is a good one.
> : >
> : > larry
> : >
> : > At 12:26 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
> : > >Keep in mind that, if things like cognitive therapies don't work by
> : > >themselves, there's nothing wrong with antidepressants.
> : > >
> : > >The problem I see with how they are used today is that they are like
> : modern
> : > >snake oil -- supposedly a panacea (how do you spell that?).  That
isn't
> : how
> : > >they should be used.  I take antidepressants in order to give me
enough
> : > >balance for things like cognitive therapy, excersize, light
> : therapy, and
> : > >just doing things that please me to control my depression.
> : > >
> : > >And sometimes it's necessary to have that help.  Yesterday,
> : for example,
> : I
> : > >got my psychiatrist to bump my dosage for a couple of months because
I
> : seem
> : > >to have seasonal affective disorder and weeks on end of one
> : sunny day in
> : > >seven was destroying me.  But I don't expect that to magically
> : make it go
> : > >away -- just make it bearable enough that I have the energy and
> : motivation
> : > >to do the things I need to do to make it go away.
> : > >
> : > >People talk about it being a crutch, but isn't that what you need
when
> : > >you've got a broken leg?
> : > >
> : > >Did that all make sense?
> : > >
> : > >I'm certainly not advocating 'jumping on the meds bandwagon' but I do
> : hope
> : > >you'll keep an open mind to it.
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >--  Ben Doom
> : > >     Programmer & General Lackey
> : > >     Moonbow Software, Inc
> : > >
> : > >: -----Original Message-----
> : > >: From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> : > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:02 PM
> : > >: To: CF-Community
> : > >: Subject: RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
> : > >:
> : > >:
> : > >: Ug. This is sad...
> : > >:
> : > >: My oldest has been battling some depression lately (he is 16) and
it
> : > >: scares me. But we are working together to try different things
before
> : we
> : > >: just jump on the meds bandwagon.
> : > >:
> : > >: ~~
> : > >: Stephenie
> : > >:
> : > >:
> : > >:
> : > >:
> : > >:
> : > >: -----Original Message-----
> : > >: From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> : > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:20 AM
> : > >: To: CF-Community
> : > >: Subject: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
> : > >:
> : > >:
> : > >: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html
> : > >:
> : > >: How dumb to people have to be???
> : > >:
> : > >: Or is it all part of Natural Selection?
> : > >:
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