Yes, this is true. Seens to me that bad code runs faster on CF5 and good
code runs faster on CFMX... The question is: what is bad code and good
code in this new CFML horizon? I'm not a hardcore programmer but even
form me, CFML is not a "programming language" status quo. Pure CF
programmers are now being "forced" to know a little of Java, to take
care of a lot of new things (such as text encoding, data types and
stuff) that is suppressed by the easy of CF5 and previous versions.
Well, this can be a good thing (at least I agree myself) but it also is
a bad thing because CFML becames more complicated and loose it's most
important feature: simplicity. Maybe, in a future, the price for
maintaining this easy can turn into a barrier to the performance and
other things that are not present in other server-side languages, such
as JSP and ASP. Is Java ready for CFMX and CFMX is ready for Java?
Huh... To be or not to be.

I think, for now, we should keep talking about it and share observations
in terms of coding and application, not only architecture and server
features... 

To start with it I can say that I'm 99% convinced that FuseBox
applications (a very high acceptable concept in "making good CF code")
runs pretty much slower under CFMX than in CF5. Maybe it's time to
forget about FuseBox architeture and jump into CFC's, maybe not? Helms,
Fusebox will "survive" CFMX?

Well, lots of things but it's been nice walk through this unexplored
field.

Marcello, em tempo: parab�ns pelo CFUG-Rio! N�s aqui de S�o Paulo
estamos nos borrando de inveja :o). De verdade, parab�ns!

[]'s
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcello Frutig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26/07/2002 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: It's official: CFMX is 10% faster than CF5


I see this as an opportunity to reinforce the need for better
application architecture and code planning, reducing what we call here,
in Portuguese, "programa��o por atrito" (friction programming??).

Marcello Frutig.
-- Astrolabio

>/takes off tinfoil hat
>
>Uh, just to throw this in, compilation of code is something you deal 
>with almost any programming language. C, C++, Java, etc. It's a bit of
a movement of a literal line by line read, but overall, it does increase
the speed of the end result.
>
>Saying "that's Java" is incorrect. "That's Programming" would be more 
>apt.
>
>Jesse Noller
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Macromedia Server Development
>Unix/Linux "special guy"
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:39 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: It's official: CFMX is 10% faster than CF5
>> 
>> Yea it is a pain in the ass to have it compile the first time but 
>> thats java for you what do you expect ;)
>> 
>> See java has its bad points. :P
>> 
>> Bill Wheatley
>> Senior Database Developer
>> Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM
>> 954.360.9022 X159
>> ICQ 417645
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex Hubner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 4:31 PM
>> Subject: It's official: CFMX is 10% faster than CF5
>> 
>> 
>> > CFMX Performance Brief: CFMX is "only" 10% faster than CF5 under 
>> > Win2k
>> > boxes:
>> >
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/whitepapers/pdf/cfmx_perfo
>> > rmance_brief.pdf
>> >
>> > Well, almost everybody knows it in it's day-by-day tests/usages...
>> >
>> > I disagree with the tests. CFMX is not 10% faster than CF5... It 
>> > looks that MM doesn't take in consideration the time (very long, 
>> > specially on templates that calls lots of includes, such as fusebox

>> > ones), to the just-in-time compiler finish it's job (which takes 
>> > 100% of my CPU)... I've told once and I'm gonna say it again: it's 
>> > a pain in the ass wait CFMX compiles my templates everytime I 
>> > modify it. In a production environment this is acceptable but in a 
>> > development environment is realy bad! It becames painless if you 
>> > use 1Gb processors or faster but... Well, does anybody has the same

>> > complain?
>> >
>> > []'s
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> 
>

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