The paragraph is correct.

You can write a presentation layer in ASP.NET with absolutely zero application logic.  
All the time.  With no exceptions.

This still isn't possible in CF, or JSP, or ASP, or PHP, etc...

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Brunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:07 am
Subject: RE: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net

> I'm on my way out so can't read all, but paragraph 3 deserves some 
> kind of
> response: -
> 
> "ColdFusion follows the same development and page execution model 
> as that of
> classic ASP, PHP, JSP, and other similar Web-scripting languages.
> Specifically, code is embedded in HTML markup, and as a given page 
> executesfrom top to bottom, the output of the code's execution 
> takes the place of
> the embedded code in the resulting HTML document. This development 
> model is
> easy to grasp, but it does have a number of drawbacks. Chief among 
> these is
> the lack of separation between application logic and presentation 
> markup.Mixing code and presentation makes the code harder to read, 
> which increases
> the time and effort involved in maintenance, and creates significant
> challenges for non-programming graphic designers who need to 
> modify a page.
> Over the years, ColdFusion has introduced several ways to mitigate 
> this lack
> of separation, including custom tags, and others-but the 
> fundamental model
> remains."
> 
> What about cfc's and for those who really want to move more OO 
> concepts CF
> and Mach II.  This is typical MS BS and deserves a response from 
> MM in my
> opinion.  (A lot of bloody abbreviations there!).
> 
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
> Webapper Services LLC
> Web Site http://www.webapper.com
> Blog http://www.webapper.net
> 
> Webapper <Web Application Specialists>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Houwing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net
> 
> First it explains what both ASP.net and Coldfusion are and that 
> they share a
> similar background. A simpel feature comparison is used to show 
> how one can
> convert a Coldfusion Application to ASP.net.
> 
> It contains a few errors, especially 'forgetting' to mention that 
> a lot of
> functionality is available in the standard JAVA API's which van be 
> directlyaccessed from coldfusion (Image support in ASP.net is also 
> only available
> through teh .Net framework, the same applies to SAX XML support and
> Threading).
> 
> They conclude that ASP.net is more reliable, faster scaling better 
> etc. etc.
> without showing any figures ro numbers.
> 
> Read it for yourself:
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> us/dnaspp/html/coldfusiontoaspnet.asp
> 
> Jesse
> 
> 
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