Nope... input.cfm defines a default value, optionally using a value from a session var/db/form/etc value to fill in the field.
I see your point, asp.net almost forces developers to separate ui from logic. It's entirely possible to go 100% inline with asp.net, but you wont find a tutorial or book that shows how to do it anywhere. I think it's possible to create an asp.net and MX UI layer that look nearly indistinguishable, even to the trained eye. I think it's ironic how tag based asp.net is... My biggest problem with asp.net is the fact that they try extremely hard to force the developer to develop exactly the way they think is best. Some parts of asp.net are very nice, I just think they went too far... -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, July 17, 2003, 12:44:14 PM, you wrote: ksc> And then... ksc> <asp:input type="text" value="#someValue#"/> ksc> There's your app logic right there... ksc> ----- Original Message ----- ksc> From: jon hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ksc> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:38 am ksc> Subject: Re: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net >> <cfimport taglib="..\extensions\customtags\ui" prefix="asp"> >> >> <asp:input type="text" ... /> >> >> See where I'm going with this? Tell me where the app logic is >> required... >> -- >> jon >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thursday, July 17, 2003, 12:20:37 PM, you wrote: >> ksc> The paragraph is correct. >> >> ksc> You can write a presentation layer in ASP.NET with absolutely >> zero application logic. All the time. With no exceptions. >> >> ksc> This still isn't possible in CF, or JSP, or ASP, or PHP, etc... >> >> ksc> ----- Original Message ----- >> ksc> From: Mike Brunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> ksc> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:07 am >> ksc> Subject: RE: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net >> >> >> I'm on my way out so can't read all, but paragraph 3 deserves >> some >> >> kind of >> >> response: - >> >> >> >> "ColdFusion follows the same development and page execution >> model >> >> as that of >> >> classic ASP, PHP, JSP, and other similar Web-scripting languages. >> >> Specifically, code is embedded in HTML markup, and as a given >> page >> >> executesfrom top to bottom, the output of the code's execution >> >> takes the place of >> >> the embedded code in the resulting HTML document. This >> development >> >> model is >> >> easy to grasp, but it does have a number of drawbacks. Chief >> among >> >> these is >> >> the lack of separation between application logic and >> presentation >> >> markup.Mixing code and presentation makes the code harder to >> read, >> >> which increases >> >> the time and effort involved in maintenance, and creates >> significant>> challenges for non-programming graphic designers who >> need to >> >> modify a page. >> >> Over the years, ColdFusion has introduced several ways to >> mitigate >> >> this lack >> >> of separation, including custom tags, and others-but the >> >> fundamental model >> >> remains." >> >> >> >> What about cfc's and for those who really want to move more OO >> >> concepts CF >> >> and Mach II. This is typical MS BS and deserves a response >> from >> >> MM in my >> >> opinion. (A lot of bloody abbreviations there!). >> >> >> >> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt >> >> Webapper Services LLC >> >> Web Site http://www.webapper.com >> >> Blog http://www.webapper.net >> >> >> >> Webapper <Web Application Specialists> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Jesse Houwing [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:44 AM >> >> To: CF-Talk >> >> Subject: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net >> >> >> >> First it explains what both ASP.net and Coldfusion are and that >> >> they share a >> >> similar background. A simpel feature comparison is used to show >> >> how one can >> >> convert a Coldfusion Application to ASP.net. >> >> >> >> It contains a few errors, especially 'forgetting' to mention >> that >> >> a lot of >> >> functionality is available in the standard JAVA API's which van >> be >> >> directlyaccessed from coldfusion (Image support in ASP.net is >> also >> >> only available >> >> through teh .Net framework, the same applies to SAX XML support and >> >> Threading). >> >> >> >> They conclude that ASP.net is more reliable, faster scaling >> better >> >> etc. etc. >> >> without showing any figures ro numbers. >> >> >> >> Read it for yourself: >> >> >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en- >> >> us/dnaspp/html/coldfusiontoaspnet.asp >> >> >> >> Jesse >> >> >> >> >> ksc> >> ksc> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
