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See where I'm going with this? Tell me where the app logic is
required...
-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, July 17, 2003, 12:20:37 PM, you wrote:
ksc> The paragraph is correct.

ksc> You can write a presentation layer in ASP.NET with absolutely zero application 
logic.  All the time.  With no exceptions.

ksc> This still isn't possible in CF, or JSP, or ASP, or PHP, etc...

ksc> ----- Original Message -----
ksc> From: Mike Brunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ksc> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:07 am
ksc> Subject: RE: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net

>> I'm on my way out so can't read all, but paragraph 3 deserves some 
>> kind of
>> response: -
>> 
>> "ColdFusion follows the same development and page execution model 
>> as that of
>> classic ASP, PHP, JSP, and other similar Web-scripting languages.
>> Specifically, code is embedded in HTML markup, and as a given page 
>> executesfrom top to bottom, the output of the code's execution 
>> takes the place of
>> the embedded code in the resulting HTML document. This development 
>> model is
>> easy to grasp, but it does have a number of drawbacks. Chief among 
>> these is
>> the lack of separation between application logic and presentation 
>> markup.Mixing code and presentation makes the code harder to read, 
>> which increases
>> the time and effort involved in maintenance, and creates significant
>> challenges for non-programming graphic designers who need to 
>> modify a page.
>> Over the years, ColdFusion has introduced several ways to mitigate 
>> this lack
>> of separation, including custom tags, and others-but the 
>> fundamental model
>> remains."
>> 
>> What about cfc's and for those who really want to move more OO 
>> concepts CF
>> and Mach II.  This is typical MS BS and deserves a response from 
>> MM in my
>> opinion.  (A lot of bloody abbreviations there!).
>> 
>> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
>> Webapper Services LLC
>> Web Site http://www.webapper.com
>> Blog http://www.webapper.net
>> 
>> Webapper <Web Application Specialists>
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jesse Houwing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:44 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net
>> 
>> First it explains what both ASP.net and Coldfusion are and that 
>> they share a
>> similar background. A simpel feature comparison is used to show 
>> how one can
>> convert a Coldfusion Application to ASP.net.
>> 
>> It contains a few errors, especially 'forgetting' to mention that 
>> a lot of
>> functionality is available in the standard JAVA API's which van be 
>> directlyaccessed from coldfusion (Image support in ASP.net is also 
>> only available
>> through teh .Net framework, the same applies to SAX XML support and
>> Threading).
>> 
>> They conclude that ASP.net is more reliable, faster scaling better 
>> etc. etc.
>> without showing any figures ro numbers.
>> 
>> Read it for yourself:
>> 
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
>> us/dnaspp/html/coldfusiontoaspnet.asp
>> 
>> Jesse
>> 
>> 
ksc> 
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