And then...

<asp:input type="text" value="#someValue#"/>

There's your app logic right there...

----- Original Message -----
From: jon hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:38 am
Subject: Re: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net

> <cfimport taglib="..\extensions\customtags\ui" prefix="asp">
> 
> <asp:input type="text" ... />
> 
> See where I'm going with this? Tell me where the app logic is
> required...
> -- 
> jon
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thursday, July 17, 2003, 12:20:37 PM, you wrote:
> ksc> The paragraph is correct.
> 
> ksc> You can write a presentation layer in ASP.NET with absolutely 
> zero application logic.  All the time.  With no exceptions.
> 
> ksc> This still isn't possible in CF, or JSP, or ASP, or PHP, etc...
> 
> ksc> ----- Original Message -----
> ksc> From: Mike Brunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ksc> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:07 am
> ksc> Subject: RE: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net
> 
> >> I'm on my way out so can't read all, but paragraph 3 deserves 
> some 
> >> kind of
> >> response: -
> >> 
> >> "ColdFusion follows the same development and page execution 
> model 
> >> as that of
> >> classic ASP, PHP, JSP, and other similar Web-scripting languages.
> >> Specifically, code is embedded in HTML markup, and as a given 
> page 
> >> executesfrom top to bottom, the output of the code's execution 
> >> takes the place of
> >> the embedded code in the resulting HTML document. This 
> development 
> >> model is
> >> easy to grasp, but it does have a number of drawbacks. Chief 
> among 
> >> these is
> >> the lack of separation between application logic and 
> presentation 
> >> markup.Mixing code and presentation makes the code harder to 
> read, 
> >> which increases
> >> the time and effort involved in maintenance, and creates 
> significant>> challenges for non-programming graphic designers who 
> need to 
> >> modify a page.
> >> Over the years, ColdFusion has introduced several ways to 
> mitigate 
> >> this lack
> >> of separation, including custom tags, and others-but the 
> >> fundamental model
> >> remains."
> >> 
> >> What about cfc's and for those who really want to move more OO 
> >> concepts CF
> >> and Mach II.  This is typical MS BS and deserves a response 
> from 
> >> MM in my
> >> opinion.  (A lot of bloody abbreviations there!).
> >> 
> >> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
> >> Webapper Services LLC
> >> Web Site http://www.webapper.com
> >> Blog http://www.webapper.net
> >> 
> >> Webapper <Web Application Specialists>
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jesse Houwing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:44 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: MSDN on CF -> ASP.net
> >> 
> >> First it explains what both ASP.net and Coldfusion are and that 
> >> they share a
> >> similar background. A simpel feature comparison is used to show 
> >> how one can
> >> convert a Coldfusion Application to ASP.net.
> >> 
> >> It contains a few errors, especially 'forgetting' to mention 
> that 
> >> a lot of
> >> functionality is available in the standard JAVA API's which van 
> be 
> >> directlyaccessed from coldfusion (Image support in ASP.net is 
> also 
> >> only available
> >> through teh .Net framework, the same applies to SAX XML support and
> >> Threading).
> >> 
> >> They conclude that ASP.net is more reliable, faster scaling 
> better 
> >> etc. etc.
> >> without showing any figures ro numbers.
> >> 
> >> Read it for yourself:
> >> 
> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> >> us/dnaspp/html/coldfusiontoaspnet.asp
> >> 
> >> Jesse
> >> 
> >> 
> ksc> 
> 
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