Mike: > >[A] there is almost no new development going on in ColdFusion
An exaggeration I think. Yes, there are less jobs, but mostly this comes down to the effects of the recession. In times of uncertainty, companies invest less where there is perceived risk. Web Application development is perceived as high risk. I've noticed that the number of jobs advertised lately seems to have picked up. But we still have the same old trick by recruiters that tend to turn one job into what looks like 8, due to multi-agency sourcing by employers. You have to ask youself why they do that, and I suggest that its because employers are finding it hard to get the right sort of candidates for the few jobs they are offering. > >[B] There is next-to no apparent activity in the Usergroups on >coldfusion, at least as far as I've seen. I've observed the same thing over a period of 10 years or so. The Cold Fusion market is mature, there are fewer newbies out there asking dumb questions. Cold Fusion is no longer seen as the new fashioned thing, rather the opposite, even by its proponents. > >[C] Adobe dont seem to be doing anything to promote ColdFusion here. Thats always been true (but substitute Macromedia as well) except for the time it was owned by J Allaire. Cold Fusion has always been driven by enthusiasm among its development fraternity. It would help if Adobe were to make an investment in Cold Fusion, it would be along the lines of making it more robust and less risky for companies wanting to invest. Some attention to incomplete product features (stuff that looks good but does not work or is hard to use) and less attention to new features unless they are essential to making it compete. Cold Fusion certainly has its threats, with .Net, PHP, Python & etc alternatives out there. Originally CF had the game to itself and it was an original concept that helped ignite enthusiasm and help to turn the web into what it is today. Now the market is bigger and there is more competition when it comes to deciding what technology for a new project to get built in. The new-fashioned technologies get picked because they are shinier and well, not so old-fashioned. Not because they are any better. But building something in CF will generally get done faster [ If they can hire enough programmers ] But the opposition too are affected by the same industry wide problems seen by CF, that is the recession & declining investment in web applications. Really though, given that CF is driven by enthusiasm, it does not help morale to have these all too frequent widely broadcast 'Chicken Little' type message events. If you feel that way, put together the message and then do a global search on your message and replace on it (replacing CF with C-Sharp) and send it into the message boards for one of our competitors. (and then duck for cover). In other words, go off quietly and don't bother the CF community about your doubts. We all know about the problem. If on the other hand you come up with a positive contribution that helps to lift morale, then tell the world about it. When you are discussing these matters with your friends, remind them and yourself of why CF always was and still remains a great concept with great productivity that to this day does things no other web development platform does. It is a proprietary platform but which is flexible enough to permit a wide variety of programming techniques. >Boy i hope I'm wrong! Yep, well IMO you are. Cheers, Bryn Parrott Perth, Australia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329889 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4