On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Dave Watts <dwa...@figleaf.com> wrote: > >> I had an Adobe guy tell me a while back "we're in the IDE and Development >> Tool business not the server business. I don't know why we have ColdFusion >> at all." >> That was a bit disquieting at the time, and I wonder . what if that feeling >> was >> widespread in Adobe? What if they start seeing CF as an orphan? > > I think this would come as a great surprise to the LiveCycle team, > which is a pretty big deal in their overall corporate product > strategy. And to the Connect and FMS teams as well. > > Adobe is a big company. It sells lots of products. Hundreds of > products. Whatever one "Adobe guy" tells you, unless that guy is a > CxO, does not reflect any sort of corporate product strategy. >
Dave, I have spent enough time in the sales operations of corporations to know that it doesn't matter a damn what the board of directors says - if the general sales team in a company has a widespread view that the product sucks, it doesn't sell. Or if they dont get the right support, or if they dont know how to sell it, it doesnt sell. This is especially true if the sales people have a whole raft of products they can sell to make quota. The CEO can jump up and down and wave his/her arms all he/she likes and it ain't gonna move. So thats why i started asking myself "what if this person's attitude was representative of the general attitude of the Adobe staff?" And dont start talking about bloody LiveCycle. It was the Adobe LiveCycle guy at WebDU who told me that he would never allow my company to have anything to do with selling LiveCycle. I guess he took a look at me and decided I wasnt 'the right kind of person' or something. Perhaps he didnt like the colour of my shirt. Even after i had told him that I had known the product for at least 15 years and had built my career on printed and electronic forms and work flow since the 1980s. And i had known this product well since before it was bought by Moore and then Adobe. (A substantial part of the product that eventually became LiveCycle was developed by Hugh Millikin's company in Sydney) Even after he knew I had extensive experience with this kind of market, he still slammed the door in my face (very rudely too i might add ) so i walked away from the whole LiveCycle thing. I'm not going to plead and beg to be 'permitted' to be a customer. > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329964 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
