Kai, I don't disagree with anything you say, but really none of those points counter what I'd brought up. Perhaps you thought I was trying to argue against what you say, but I was just responding to the specific points I referenced in Scott's post. I wasn't saying I disagreed with everything he said.
As for the observation that things in A/NZ may be that much different from in the US, I will say this: I hear this all the time from all over the world. Everyone thinks things are worse where they are (whether uptake, or user group participation, etc.), when the truth is (I think) that things are the same all over. I don't many developers in the community would assert that there's any significant uptake in CF. Sure, Adobe may say there is a huge increase in sales, and that may comfort some, but I don't think most really think that's translating into any *significant* growth in new developers. It's more simply (I'd think) about existing sites buying the upgrade (though I could be wrong), and perhaps some percent of new sales. Again, I'm not denying what's being said here about what could be done to increase the size of the CF community. Then again, while I accept that CF is a much smaller community than either .NET, PHP, or Ruby. I don't let that trouble me, myself. But I'm not denying the feelings of those who feel otherwise. /charlie -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kai Koenig Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:28 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? Charlie, you're right with a few of your remarks and I think no one has said Scott is totally right, let's all jump ship because MSFT and .NET is much better anyway :-) But imho it's reality that the recent and often talked about boom in CF8 sales, adoption and cool projects doesn't seem to have arrived in total (yet) in Australia and New Zealand. I can't <snip> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---