At 2004-02-10 08:04, rhonn tabanao wrote:

>"> - Buy a little box with two RS-232 connectors
>> (generally 25 pins,
>>   but perhaps there are also 9-pins versions now)
>> with 9 two-color
>>   LED's that indicate the state of the 9 most
>> important lines."
>
>Sound interesting..
>Is there a schematic for this device??
>Thanks again.

I don't know about a schematic, but this is an
example of what I am talking about:
http://www.lindy.com/de/productfolder/04/43014/index.php

And here is another:
http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?sku=232MTT&dept_id=136

And here is a 9-pin version:
http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?sku=9PMTT

On page:
http://www.airborn.com.au/rs232.html
there is an explanation:

>
>Using a Breakout box or LED box to work out cabling
>
>
>
>If you have problem with RS232 cabling, your best "emergency" tool may be a breakout 
>box (sometimes called an LED box). Generally these units only come in the DB25 size, 
>but with a couple of DB9 to DB25 adaptors, they can be used with DB9 cables as well. 
>The units have an LED for each signal line in the cable, and the LED lights green or 
>red dependent on the signal state. The Breakout box also allows you to disconnect 
>certain lines in the cable, and patch in new ones - good for trying new cable wiring 
>possibilities. 
>
>The first thing to remember, is that there is a good chance the two devices you are 
>trying together will actually work if you can get the cable correct. If you have some 
>other way to actually prove this - for instance by trying each of the devices on 
>another system - do it. 
>
>Given a hypothetical example - for instance connecting a standard PC with a DB25M to 
>a 200 disk CD changer with a DB25M, the first thing I would try and do is get a cable 
>that I think would work. In this instance, I would either purchase or build a 
>null-modem cable (DB25F to DB25F) - similar to the last example, basically the cable 
>used to connect two PCs together with handshaking, only DB25F to DB25F instead of 
>DB9F to DB9F. 
>
>Given the cable that I believe will work, connect the cable, LED box and two devices 
>all together. Before powering on both devices, unplug just one of them. Power the 
>devices on and make a note of which LEDs are lit. Then unplug the connected device 
>and plug in the disconnected one, without rearranging the cabling otherwise. Again 
>make a note of which LEDs are lit. If any single LED is lit by both of the devices, 
>then there is an output conflict, and the cable wiring is incorrect. By this, I mean 
>that one line in the cable has an output driving it from both ends - and this is not 
>correct for RS232 - so that means that the cable wiring is not correct for the 
>devices. Pay particular attention to Tx and Rx. 
>
>To continue with the example above, if I saw that two ends were driving the same 
>lines, I would assume the null modem cable was not correct, and I would try a 
>one-for-one gender changer instead. 
>
>If each end drives its own set of LEDs, connect the two ends together. In normal 
>situations, you should see all the LEDs light up - but there are some devices which 
>will not light up all the LEDs. Having said that, if one of the devices is a PC and 
>any LED except RI (Ring indicator) is not lit up, the cable will probably not work. 
>
>Normally, other cabling problems will involve handshake lines. An LED box will be an 
>invaluable guide, but there is no trivial test to determine the solution. An LED Box 
>will also show the lines as they change state, although it is usually quite hard to 
>see the serial communications themselves unless the comms are continuous, or at a low 
>baud rate (9600 baud or lower is usually visible).

They are a bit more expensive then I remembered:
15 euro or more, but you only need one and they
will last for a lifetime.

I used 'RS-232 led' as a search term in Google to
find these pages.

Greetings,
Jaap

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