Janet what breed was your husbands Bratt???? Not a cavalier.... right?
Cathy J. Gish Janet Dalton wrote: > I would like to respond regarding my husbands dog--Ch. Ttarb The Bratt--Bratt is the >Sire of 137 AKC Champions--he had the most exquisite head and expression(sorely >lacking in the breed at the time) a classic body and outline-good rear--there was >enough of him and he could have had a better shoulder--his influence on the breed is >seen in the ring today. Where there problems--of course -if you went to the well too >often you lost bone--there have been no major health issues from his line > to date. Bratt was an exaggerated dog however I believe you must have that in any >breed to maintain type( I see that in Cavaliers today). > > I would also like to mention the Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier Club of America. In >the early 80s we instituted a proctocol for our Breeders List--you must have both OFA >clearances and Eye clearances(prior to CERF) to be eligibleto be on the list---HD has >been reduced-but not eliminated and eyes are in very good shape in the breed. That >is not to say that there are no other problems in the breed that are now being >addressed. > > Dr. Padgett states in his book that if we did not breed carriers we would never >breed another litter---the trick is to prioritize by how fatal to the dog the defect >may be and linebreed to reduce the incidence. > > I would not choose-in any breed--to have ugly untypey dogs-I choose beautiful dogs >bred from non-affected stock-and discard problems as I go. > > Until both Cavalier clubs work together--and all lines are available to all breeders >the goals we seek are not easily attainable. > > Janet Dalton > > Cavatibs wrote: > > > I believe there was a Cocker called My Own Brucie that had a major impact on the >breed as he won Westminster, was a beautiful specimen and bitches Coast to Coast were >bred to him -- unfortunately, he was also highly aggressive and even today you see >his influence as there are major aggression problems in Cockers. I do not know >either of the three dogs you mention (they were way before my time in dogs here in >the USA) but with the hip problems in German Shepherds and on hearing about > > the policy of the Golden Club Magazine editors from Terrie, I am surprised to see >that from 1970 to date neither dog is listed on the OFA website. One wonders what >other major impact these dogs made on their respective breeds. Without health in >these highly (presumably) bred dogs, you have nothing. > > > > Anne > > > > Peggy Mickelson wrote: > > > > > Gee, this catching up is making me post a lot.... > > > > > > When we speak of influential dogs, it is well to keep in mind that some dogs who >could have and should have been influential did not become so because they belonged >to people who may have been disliked, or to people who did not accept all comers for >breeding, and therefore did not get used much. This happens more here in the US (and >maybe in Canada) than in other countries, where it seems breeders have a better sense >of what is important. I've known bitches to be sent to dogs when > > > their owners just about hated one another...but not in this country. Here, >often it is who the owner is that determines whether a dog is used often enough to >have an effect on the breed...and I'm not just speaking of Cavaliers here. Also, >here in the US, there are always the people who rush to breed to a dog imported from >a famous kennel overseas, sometimes without even seeing the dog or his pedigree. > > > It is easy for a dog to have an influence on a breed when he is used 30 or >40 times a year, or even just used a dozen times by the same owner who makes sure >that the majority of the get are shown to their titles. This ensures that a dog will >appear in dozens of pedigrees as time goes on. One can only hope that the dogs so >used will be a good influence, not just an influence. > > > Over the years I've been involved in this sport, three dogs come to mind as >having had a MAJOR impact on their breeds...changing the look of the breed entirely. >They were the German Shepherd, CH Lance of Fran-Jo, the Golden, CH Cummings Gold-Rush >Charlie, and the Smooth Fox Terrier, CH Ttarb the Brat. Brat was an import from >Tasmania (we bow again to our friends down under)...the other dogs were American >Bred. I don't think we will see anything like those dogs in > > > Cavaliers...those three STAMPED their offspring unmistakably and literally >changed their breeds. 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