Cathy, the portion of the Cockers that were ruined were the backyard type, not the sort that would be advertised in a Stud Review. The Cocker conformation changed drastically, but that will happen to the Cavalier as well if breeders sacrifice health and temperament for looks. This can and does happen to any breed when winning is more important that the dog itself. All the best, Susan Cochran
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] vets > Well gee would this way of thinking be why the breed went down the tubes. I > know there are still some good ones around but the indiscriminate breeding of > cockers was very devastating to that breed. I don't want that to happen to > cavaliers but I feel it is on its way. > > I know Michael did not let just anyone have her dogs or breed to them and I > don't either. As a matter of fact with some of the things that have happened to > me in the past few years I don't care if anyone EVER breeds to ANY of dogs. > > Cathy J. Gish > http://www.FlyingColorsCavaliers.com > > Susan Cochran wrote: > > > Myra, that is the difference between the way the gene pool is restricted in > > Cavaliers and the way things are done in other AKC breeds. When I was in > > Cockers in the 1970s, a stranger could call up anyone listed in the annual > > Stud Review and arrange for stud service. Most breeders required a > > brucellosus test, but I don't remember ever being asked for a pedigree or > > even for the female's photo. I am not commenting on the pro's and con's of > > how each breeder handles stud inquiries, but simply on their effect on > > genetic diversity in the breed. > > > > All the best, > > Susan Cochran > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] vets > > > > > Well, if we don't get them to answer any questions about their bitch, yes > > we > > > would refuse immediately. Myra > > > > > > > > > >From: Susan Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] vets > > > >Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:21:07 -0500 > > > > > > > >No, Laura, putting the person through the interrogation process that > > puppy > > > >buyers get is not allowed. The only information allowed is the amount in > > > >the > > > >question. They saw the ad and asked to use your dog. Would you refuse? > > > > > > > >All the best, > > > >Susan Cochran > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Laura Trunk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:58 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] vets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a stranger called you, said that they had seen your ad in Royal > > > > > Spaniels, > > > > > > and asked to use one of your studs, would you refuse? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never--just to refuse. I would treat the person just like my puppy > > > >calls. > > > > > I would ask about the bitch, want to see pictures and pedigree, ask > > > >about > > > > > health, ask what the person was looking for and on and on. I would > > use > > > > > common sense and answer honestly. If I felt my dog was not right for > > > >the > > > > > bitch, I would say so. 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