I cannot resist getting involved in this topic although I should know better
and when I have had my say I will retire to the air raid shelter VBG
Let me hasten to add I am not responding to any particular post but to all
of them in general!
As with all generalisations there are exceptions - there always have been
and always will be unscrupulous, unethical breeders who will take a newcomer
who has done no research for a ride, and at the other end of the spectrum
and I think by far the majority of breeders who try their best to produce
quality puppies and if a problem arises try to be as helpful as possible
but.......

1 How can any one say they are buying "show quality stock" unless that
Cavalier has been shown and has won (even then the judges opinion is
subjective) The most that can be said about any puppy is that it has "show
potential" and not even that until at least 5-6 months old.
What happens to it in its new home can make or mar that potentially show
quality puppy. If it doesn't come up to scratch is the breeder still
liable?? I don't think so
What is "show quality" anyway? For example "I" might consider something I
have bred as being "show potential" but another breeder might think "ye gods
that is only suitable to be sold as a pet" Dare I suggest also that someone
who has not been breeding very long perceives "all " the puppies in the
litter as "wonderful"! VBG I know I did!!

2 Re health problems - is the breeder supposed to have a crystal ball?
Cavaliers or any other animal for that matter are livestock - how can you
guarantee anything about what that animal will or will not develop in the
future? so much depends on environment, diet etc etc
All any breeder can do is know the lines that she is breeding from and the
health (one assumes by testing) of the parents. However with MVD in
particular that in itself is no guarantee - as we know MVD is in all lines
to a greater or lesser extent and as yet there is no genetic test for it. It
is also recognised that some puppies in a litter may never develop MVD but
will die of some other condition like kidney failure, a percentage may not
develop a murmur until late in life whereas other unfortunately may develop
early onset.

I suppose what worries me is
a) is breeders  giving guarantees for something that they have very little
control over
b) new owners expectations based on those guarantees
c) the length of time that guarantee could be viewed to last from the
purchasers perspective- is it 1,2 5 years or for the lifetime of the animal?
Distressing though it may be to the owner if the dog or whatever animal it
is, if it becomes ill I really don't see how a breeder can be held
responsible if she has provided at the time of sale the health testing
results on the parents and other antecedents if available. Even so the
breeder is at the mercy of the so called professionals (vets) and their
testing can be variable!!

Off now to do some work!!

Annette


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