Thank you Josh...and once again, thank you Stu. On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:50 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote:
> To Kevin's point, if the expense (money and time) is exorbitant, there may > be alternatives or at least a strong argument for something different. > This list does have plenty of smart people, many of whom may have > experience with modern social networking technology and associated > platforms. It is possible that there is a better way to do this. It is > also quite possible that this list is still the best, cheapest, and least > involved. > > Just because this topic has been discussed at length multiple times in the > past doesn't mean that a new technology hasn't come along. I do remember > that one of the important features referenced in the past was that it be > email based so that our SSB/pactor/snail mail members can still interact. > With the ubiquity of modern high-speed cell phone internet and even > satellite internet communications it seems that even that argument is > becoming moot. > > As for the "transition" from Stu (for whatever reason but most importantly > an untimely demise) a "board of directors" might be appropriate to ensure a > smooth transition. > > None of this is to discredit or disrespect Stu's efforts or > contributions. In fact quite the opposite. Thank you Stu for all of your > time and effort over the years. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Oct 26, 2017 3:35 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dennis et al, >> Wouldn't you want to know how *much* it is costing Stu or how *little* he >> is making so you could send MORE money, to help out? I do so I can send >> MORE, not less! >> >> Continue to pile on all you like. Being informed of the approximate costs >> (in time and $) would benefit everyone, least of all Stu, since listers >> would know what it takes and could contribute MORE. >> >> Keep em coming. Still loving this list and C&C's ;! >> >> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This virtual C&C community has existed for over 20 years. Many of us >>> have escaped the list's cyber boundaries and meet in the "real" world. >>> >>> What Bill didn't mention was that Sailnet wanted to charge an ongoing >>> fee to all of us. We would also be subject to their advertisements and >>> any future fee increases. After we set up a Yahoo Groups, we found it >>> lacking. >>> >>> Stu stepped up to the plate and offered to maintain what we now call >>> Stu's List. One of the promises Stu made was "no advertising, ever". We >>> like that. It is a community list. Although Stu diligently maintains it, >>> we all feel a deep sense of community and semi-ownership. Although Stu is >>> the "official head knocker in charge", we choose to believe this list is >>> "ours". >>> >>> Not only does this resource make our boats more valuable, the cumulative >>> $$ and aggravation savings are large. Benefiting from the been there, done >>> that of this list is very valuable. The combined experience of our members >>> cover all aspects of our boats; rigging, tuning, structural repairs, >>> engines, electrical and electronics. >>> >>> Well worth throwing a few bucks at Stu. IMHO, if there is an excess, I >>> believe Stu will inform us and apply it to next year's expenses. I, like >>> others, think that if Stu chooses to accept an annual "bonus" of a bottle >>> or two of some fine adult beverage, that's good by me. He deserves it. >>> >>> Enough about this. Send $$$. >>> >>> Dennis C. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great length. >>>> We do not need to re-litigate it again. We were all originally on a group >>>> hosted by Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and we were essentially left >>>> homeless. At that time, we had a long debate about where to go. Google >>>> really didn't exist then. The big player was Yahoo. There were a few other >>>> options, including staying with the new owners of Sailnet, even though they >>>> had dumped our archives. Having been burned badly by allowing someone else >>>> to host us, we were all very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, >>>> where some outside bean-counter would never again have the option to >>>> exterminate us, and throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing >>>> job all these years, and at one time mentioned that there was a succession >>>> plan in place. Anyone who thinks this is in any way a "business" for Stu >>>> should just go back out whatever door they came in. He has put an enormous >>>> amount of time and effort into keeping us together, and I would be shocked >>>> if the bottom line has not been a bit of red ink for him. Stu has formal >>>> arrangements for use of the official C&C material on his website and use of >>>> the logo for various items he occasionally makes available as modest fund >>>> raisers. The founders and principal players of the old C&C have expressed >>>> gratitude for Stu's efforts in keeping their legacy alive. Our old C&C's >>>> are also more saleable, and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's generous >>>> work. >>>> >>>> Bill Bina >>>> >>>> On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: >>>> >>>> Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my >>>> perspective: >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's >>>> property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is >>>> a Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not think >>>> one person should own, control, and profit? from the experiences shared by >>>> many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. >>>> >>>> God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would >>>> evaporate unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu does >>>> not own the intellectual property on this list and does not own any part or >>>> version of the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If anything we should be >>>> sending money to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's family, etc. for the designs they >>>> labored over and executed so well. >>>> >>>> Cloud storage is *storage*. That's all. >>>> >>>> I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer >>>> hasn't been provided. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. >>>>> >>>>> I have met people through this list that I have later met in person >>>>> who are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in person who >>>>> are friends I have solved engine problems due to input from this list and >>>>> learned that cows do better foredeck work than me. I have learned a lot. >>>>> >>>>> This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud makes it >>>>> not stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i have >>>>> owned >>>>> or sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe strongly that this >>>>> list is so good because of Stu >>>>> >>>>> I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico >>>>> >>>>> Mike Hoyt >>>>> The most consistent not currently c&c poster >>>>> The biggest interloper >>>>> One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built >>>>> >>>>> 1987 non c&c >>>>> Persistence >>>>> Out of the water today >>>>> Halifax, ns >>>>> _ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >>>> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a >>>> small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >>>> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> >>>> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >>> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a >>> small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >>> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a >> small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> _______________________________________________ > > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up > again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a > small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send > contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All contributions are greatly appreciated! >
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