Well said Bill and I’m a beancounter! John
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great length. We do > not need to re-litigate it again. We were all originally on a group hosted by > Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and we were essentially left homeless. At > that time, we had a long debate about where to go. Google really > didn't exist then. The big player was Yahoo. There were a few other options, > including staying with the new owners of Sailnet, even though they had dumped > our archives. Having been burned badly by allowing someone else to host us, > we were all very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, where > some outside bean-counter would never again have the option to exterminate > us, and throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing job all these > years, and at one time mentioned that there was a succession plan in place. > Anyone who thinks this is in any way a "business" for Stu should just go back > out whatever door they came in. He has put an enormous amount of time and > effort into keeping us together, and I would be shocked if the bottom line > has not been a bit of red ink for him. Stu has formal arrangements for use of > the official C&C material on his website and use of the logo for various > items he occasionally makes available as modest fund raisers. The founders > and principal players of the old C&C have expressed gratitude for Stu's > efforts in keeping their legacy alive. Our old C&C's are also more saleable, > and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's generous work. > > Bill Bina > >> On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: >> Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my >> perspective: >> >> Mike, >> >> I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's >> property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is a >> Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not think >> one person should own, control, and profit? from the experiences shared by >> many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. >> >> God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would evaporate >> unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu does not own the >> intellectual property on this list and does not own any part or version of >> the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If anything we should be sending money >> to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's family, etc. for the designs they >> labored over and executed so well. >> >> Cloud storage is storage. That's all. >> >> I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer hasn't >> been provided. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. >>> >>> I have met people through this list that I have later met in >>> person who are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in >>> person who are friends I have solved engine problems due to input from >>> this list and learned that cows do better foredeck work than >>> me. I have learned a lot. >>> >>> This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud >>> makes it not stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i >>> have owned or sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe strongly >>> that this list is so good because of Stu >>> >>> I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico >>> >>> Mike Hoyt >>> The most consistent not currently c&c poster >>> The biggest interloper >>> One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built >>> >>> 1987 non c&c >>> Persistence >>> Out of the water today >>> Halifax, ns >>> _ > > _______________________________________________ > > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. > October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small > contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution > -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All contributions are greatly appreciated!
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